Topic: General Xbox Series X|S Thread

If I buy a series x for the living room and a series x for the bed room and a series x for the basement. Can I play my digital games between all three. Sometimes I don't get the living room tv. Sometime my wife kicks me out of the bedroom. And sometimes I live in the basement.

@sixrings Yes if you sign in to your account on each and play it on there. You will be only able to have one primary console though that shares the games with every other user on the console.

XSX blows air at 45C...pony media goes - ooo ooo Xbox burning my skin call 911...well sir plz apply some ps5 over your burns now.

@AkashTheGod99 What I would recommend would depend on what you want.

If you want one at launch, then I recommend finding ANY retailer with stock, if they still have any, and pre-ordering as soon as possible. If no-one has stock, still pre-order to get your name on the list so that when stock does come in, you are high up on the list to get one.

If its not that important when you get one, you can wait and see if any stores have any after launch - but with Christmas coming and demand quite high, you may have to wait until next year.

It really does depend on you and what you want. MS will be releasing new details and building up the hype between now and release so demand could increase. The more you delay, the more of this years stock will be sold and the further down the list you will end up if you do decide to pre-order. As I said, it really depends on whether that matters to you or not, but if you want one for launch, I would be looking to find out if any has stock to pre-order, registering with all the stockists to be notified as soon as more stock becomes available to pre-order, doing what I can to maximise my chance of getting one sooner rather than later. If you can wait - even until after Christmas if necessary, then perhaps I would just wait and see what happens.

@Senua if you read that, it says 'Estimated' running temperatures and that the 'difference' was still only a few degrees. Series X estimated to run at 52-62 degrees whilst PS5 estimated to run at 55-65 degrees. All that based on just clock speeds and PSU's. Its possible the PS5 exhaust could be lower as the heat has a lot more surface area internally to dissipate so the air coming out is 'cooled' more. There is quite a difference too between the 'peak' temperature of the Chip (65 degrees) compared to the temperature of the exhaust air

Its like blowing out air through a 'shorter' pipe will come out the other end warmer than travelling through a long pipe - at the end of the day, as long as it cools the important parts sufficiently to keep them from exceeding operational running temps, it doesn't matter - unless the exhaust is hot enough to cause damage, injury. The heat coming out the exhaust on a car can be hotter or colder depending on the length of the pipe - even if the engine is running at the same temperature. Comparing 'peak' temp of APU of one console to Exhaust air of the other is like comparing the temperature of an Engine of one car to the air coming out of the Exhaust of another - haha you engine is running at over 200 degrees whilst my car is blowing out air at 70 degrees....

I would rather wait until I see thermal camera images and/or actual temperature measurements. I think its ridiculous to use 'estimates' or hearsay from someone with no practical assessment and ridiculing one based on estimates or predictions could come back and bite you. If those estimates turn out to be incorrect, the other way round, it makes you look bad.

Its as bad as those Sony fanboys mocking Series X for the price of 1TB of extra storage and then finding out that the cost s more for PS5. Also, with temperatures, they can vary +/- a few degrees so in one result, one maybe hotter, another result, the other...

@BAMozzy One journalist has measured the temperature of the XSX prototype and according to him it is 45C after 4 hours of gaming.

Horribly optimised and poorly scaled dragon engine doesn’t even run on 4K60 on 2080 PC.

@Senua Ryu Ga Gotoku are able to iterate quickly and push out massive high quality games every year. Because they don’t spend huge amounts of time optimising to the highest possible resolution. Microsoft first party stuff will probably hit 4K 60 but they are far less prolific.

Interesting to know that 1440p on the series X translates to 900p on the series S.

@Ryall “Massive”, “high quality” these terms are questionable when thousand times bigger and more performance intensive cross gen titles like Valhalla, Watch Dogs Legion or even Cyberpunk which is the biggest and densest open world of the decade (to the point it absolutely needs RT according to DF) and is from a small independent studio are able to perfectly scale the hardware and run at highest fidelities. Shame on such lazy trash developers from a well known studio. And yes I have little doubt that Microsoft’s upcoming AAA IPs will be pushing the hardware as they have way bigger lineup of next-gen exclusives right now but 99% of other 3rd party titles will do so too in few years after they have upgraded to next gen engines and Gamecore.

@BAMozzy thanks

@Senua So??? That Journalist is still measuring the 'EXTERNAL' temperature and that 'estimate' was an estimate of the actual APU running temp.

Like I said, its like comparing the temperature of the actual engine with the external temperature - two completely different points that should be quite different. If you actually bothered to read the article, the estimated running temp of the Series X was 52-62 degrees compared to the running temp of the PS5 at 55-65 degrees - meaning that the 'peak' temperature the APU will reach (estimated), is 62 degrees for Series X and 65 degrees for PS5. If you could strip the console down and measure the temperature of the APU, that's its 'estimated' temperature.

That is not a safe temperature and can cause burns to people - but fortunately, that's deep inside the console and to stop it getting too hot, stop it melting or damaging other components, melting the solder that holds parts on etc, there is cooling systems designed to take away that heat, cool it and exhaust it so external temps are NOT as high as the internal APU can get.

Does anyone know if the live gold subscription will work on the new series consoles? As I don't want to get game pass as I will be buying my games individually.

@BazzaRFC You can use your Gold subscription on any console you sign in including the new consoles.

@BlueOcean Thanks for that. I couldn't find the info on Google.

@BazzaRFC No worries 😁.

Another question, do Xbox one discs work with the Series X, the game is Halo: MCC

@AkashTheGod99 Yes. Games don't run from Discs anyway but the disc will be needed to verify you have a valid licence to play the game. If there is a Series X version of the game, like Gears 5 will have, it will download and install that version - although you will still need the disc to verify you have a licence to play it.

The Disc is either used to install the software or download the software - the game doesn't run from the Bluray drive at all. Its only function after install is to verify you own the game and therefore have a valid licence to play it.

@BAMozzy thanks, you have helped me a lot

@AkashTheGod99 No probs

Incidentally for yours and anyone else who doesn't know, when you buy a 'game', you are NOT purchasing the Software, you are actually buying a Licence to use that software under the Terms and Conditions stipulated. When you sell a disc for example, what you are actually trading is your licence to play. The disc contains a copy of that software BUT that software is actually owned by the Publisher or Developer.

Obviously there are different forms of a Licence - from 'general' as on a disc, meaning anyone who has that disc can play that game so if you have a family for example, regardless of the profile signed in, it will allow access or you can let a friend borrow it and they can access the game. Exclusive Licence, like Digital Games have that are locked to your Profile so you have to sign into your account to play the games and even 'conditional' licences - such as must have an Active Gold subscription, Must have an Active Game Pass subscription AND the game must still be in Game Pass. You can even have temporary licences that expire after a certain time - either fixed real world time (after 1 week) or in game time (after 10hrs) for demo's, betas etc.

Games with Gold gives you 4 exclusive licences - 2 permanent (BC games) and 2 conditional (XB1 games) and of course to play them, you do get access to download the software but that software is not owned by you.

The reason you need to put Discs in consoles nowadays is just to verify you still have a 'general' licence to play as the Software is installed and running from your Storage (HDD/SSD). It stops people installing the software on 1 device and then selling it on but still able to access that software. Stops games being pirated etc. Anyone can copy the software and install it, but its still only accessible if you have a valid licence.