@ralphdibny I'd say it very much depends on how much space you have behind that unit. In 'theory', the top holes and open front should allow most of the hot air escape. The fact its 'blowing' straight up will push the air sideways but obviously going to warm the top of the unit and therefore not 'cool' the air as much. It may well operate at a 'higher' average temp because hot air can't 'escape' as much, more of it sat in the warmer air and the unit above being 'warmer' to having directed hot air.
As hot air rises, its perhaps better to go for the horizontal alignment as you can direct the 'exhaust' to the more open 'front' of the unit - assuming the holes at the back also allow decent cool air to be sucked in. At the very least, the console is sat lower, can be used to push most hot air out into the room and therefore run 'cooler'.
I don't think you'll have too much issue in either case as I'm sure they are designed to run in more torturous conditions and temperatures. Its just that the fan would be on and/or running faster a LOT more than say running the unit in much cooler climates with the optimum airflow. I don't know where you live but if the ambient temp is much higher (as it is in some climates), then its going to work harder to keep the unit cool, especially as its not pulling in the 'coolest' air to begin with.
I'd also 'never' game with the glass front closed too because you are significantly reducing the air flow and trapping more heat inside...
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@BAMozzy cheers for your thoughts on this, I largely agree. Ambient temp is normal for the south of England really. It errs on the cold side unless there is a random heatwave in summer 😅. It's more or less the same in the flat but we keep it warm enough for mould prevention reasons. Likewise, the TV unit has a couple inches clearance from the wall behind it. Mainly for cable management purposes but it also has the effect of providing extra ventilation space back there.
Cheers for that anyway. Definitely don't think I'll be doing any gaming with the door open. The side effect of that unfortunately is that now the door is basically open all the time because I use the Xbox so much and forget to shut it 😅. I'll have to make an effort to close it after use. Otherwise there is no point in it being in a cabinet lol
@Mauzuri I have mine vertical and never had problems reading disk. But also never heard of issues with the horizontal system. Which way are you putting the system? The disc was upside down by any chance?
@Mauzuri I've had my Series X since Day1 and mine is kept Horizontally - its the only way it fits in my AV unit. All I can say is that I can't recall ever having had an issue with reading discs. My OG XB1 (that VHS looking monster) had to be replaced because of a 'disc' issue- it wouldn't take the disc in 'properly' to align with the laser so I was constantly having to lift the front up so 'gravity' would assist. But since then, I don't recall any problems.
That's not to say I haven't, but at most, a simple eject and re-insert maybe has occurred but I can't recall doing it with my Series X in particular...
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@Mauzuri I am asking because as far as I know (it is my first Xbox system) this is the first Xbox system where you put the disc with the top facing you.
Does anyone have the XBLA versions of Sonic 1, 2, 3 and & Knuckles?
Just wondering whether I should pick them up before they get delisted so I have options to play both the original versions in HD as well as the updated versions in Sonic Origins should I choose to buy that down the line (not looking likely currently due to its price and convoluted DLC).
I was just looking the XBLA versions up and a lot of info seems outdated unless the games just haven't been updated.
If anyone has them, do you know if the lock on feature works on Series X so if you own all 4 games, you can play Blue Sphere, 2&Knuckles and 3&Knuckles?
Also I've been reading that 3&Knuckles omits the level select which is a huge turn off for me. I might skip the whole set if that's the case and turn to emulation if I ever want to play these games again in future and not on the origins collection. I own them enough times already to be honest, Mega Drive, GameCube, PS3, Mega Drive Mini, 3DS and Switch.
Did the level select get patched in at all? I remember it being one of the features that helped make 3&Knuckles one of my favourite platformers ever. Just because you could go back and finish bits off that you didn't the first time around!
@Balta666 Sonic 3 has the level select so when you combine Sonic 3 and Sonic&Knuckles to unlock the "complete" game, it lets you level select any level from both games as you progress through it.
I think the complete Sonic 3 & Knuckles is actually one of the best 2D platformers ever made and easily the pinnacle of the Sonic series. The arcadey/early console set up of Sonic 1&2 is fine but the accessibility of the more modern "backtrack to finish" set up of Sonic 3 is what tips it over to being the best Sonic game ever made. Even if I am more nostalgic for Sonic 2 which was my first sonic game.
@ralphdibny I never owned Sonic 3 and never played both for the true ending so... Funny how nostalgia works. As I had as kid both 1 and s+k those are my favourites and 2 never clicked with me
@Grumblevolcano ahh that's on the Xbox store. I don't think they've ever been available on the Xbox store, only on the 360 marketplace where they still seem to be available for the time being:
You can buy them there with the account you use on Xbox one/series and they become available to download on Xbox one/series. I think sonic 2 and sonic CD are available on the One/Series store anyway though, not sure.
Here's the rest of the BC sonic games, just for posterity:
On the topic of the soundtrack, I always thought that was just a rumour. Apparently Michael Jackson made some tracks for sonic 3/&knuckles but they didn't actually use them even though what they ended up with did sound a bit Michael jackson-y
I thought that just got thrown about along with the "lock on technology was hard to implement" excuse but the real reason was that it wasn't cost effective for them to actually just do it for the specific releases that don't have S3&K or don't support the lock on. I always thought both reasons were a load of rubbish because sonic mega collection and the XBLA releases both supported the games and the lock on feature
@Banjo- for sure! I really wish this sonic origins collection was beefier. Even if it just had straight up emulated versions of the MS/GG, Neo Geo Pocket and GBA games. Would be so awesome and a day one purchase!
@ralphdibny Just Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles officially remade for this first time is enough to justify its existence and it's something I've been waiting for a long time. It's a much better way to play than any emulated version and I never had the Mega Drive although I played it at my school friends'. This is also the first time that Sonic the Hedgehog and Sonic the Hedgehog 2 remakes are available outside mobile. The only modern current-gen console that has any of these games (outside emulation) is Series X with the backwards compatible Sonic CD remake.
Of course, I'd like some unlockables or DLC, the most obvious are Master System and Mega Drive (including Knuckles Chaotix) emulated games as this is called "Origins". Sonic Advance Trilogy, Sonic Rush, Sonic Rush Adventure and the Neo Geo Pocket rare version are all welcome.
@Banjo- oh yeah Knuckles Chaotix would be so good, as well as SegaSonic The Hedgehog which again has some weird excuse for not being released of not being able to implement trackball controls.
I might be alone in this but I think Sonic Spinball and Sonic 3D are both really good too. Had a blast on both games in the past!
I probably will get this sonic origins collection when it gets a physical release which I'm guessing it probably will in the end based on Sega's past form for this sort of thing. Something about all that weird DLC/pre order bonuses, as well as the price has really rubbed me up the wrong way though so it's a pass for me for now.
Don't get me wrong, I know a lot of work has gone into updating these games in the past and for the new collection but the value of the content is paltry compared to past compilations like Sonic Mega Collection. I know they've updated it for wide screen, rebuilt them on a new engine etc but it's still the same games at the end of the day and they are charging way too much for them in my opinion.
That's actually a good suggestion for DLC though! Extra actual games would be worth doing, not whatever DLC they've got available to pre order now. It just sounds like a load of nonsense! 😅
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