@Kezelpaso Fair enough. Let's see how frequently they add new tracks. If it's anything like GT7, we're in for a long wait before it gets better. Hopefully they'll learn something from their competitor.

"Forza Motorsport has 20 track locations at launch, and while that number is a decent amount on day one, we already have more courses confirmed to be releasing in 2023 and beyond."

Come on now, 20 locations is anything but decent. I'm doing career mode and I'm already tired of VIR and Watkins Glen appearing in most championships. A decent amount would've been 30+ locations.

I'm actually hoping they add more original tracks, like Bernese Alps, Rio, Prague... That's where the Forza soul is.

Favorite racing game: Sega Rally on Sega Saturn
But since the question is franchise, I'd say Gran Turismo 1-4 is best, but Forza 4 and up (except 5) took the crown for me.

I love both GT and Forza, and since I own both consoles, I have the best of both worlds.

@GeeForce Remember that most real world circuits don't allow reverse layouts. But it's still a lot less than Forza 7 and their competitor GT7. It's gonna feel old pretty fast.

"‘Hey, launch small and build over time.’ It’s not a service game. This is a AAA game."

C'mon, the game is launching with only 20 locations. That's pretty small in my book.

@Techno92LFC Yeah, they could even have two separate level systems. One for bots and another for online. I would definitely buy the battle pass for that, but they don't want my money...

@Techno92LFC That's pretty much me. I always have more fun playing with bots than online. That's why I always liked COD, because most other shooters don't even bother adding the option to play with bots.

I'm really loving it so far. Solid experience with no major bugs. And the gameplay feels really smooth on Series X, even smoother than regular 30fps, can't explain it well, but I'm not missing the 60fps as much as I thought I would.

I lost count how many times I stopped just to admire the vistas. I also love the background music. It really sets up the atmosphere really nice. Well done Bethesda. That extra year made wonders to the game.

@theduckofdeath It's still paid DLC, which was my point initially. Look, I'm no fanboy, I have both XSX and PS5. Just saying that I prefer the GT7 model, which has free updates. I couldn't care less about MTX, which I think they overdid it, but that's optional.

On another note, I love GT7's handling with the gyroscope. I wish Xbox had a similar experience, like the Speed Wheel they had for the X360. Playing Forza 4 with that was awesome, since I couldn't get an expensive wheel.

@Sifi I'd rather have unpaid DLC. I don't spend a cent in MTX anyway. It doesn't change the fact that the game has very few locations at launch, though.

The game has so few tracks compared to other racers. 20 locations for 6 years of development seems really low. It'll start to get old pretty fast, especially on the career mode as you keep racing on the same tracks. I'm sure they'll add more later on, but they probably will be paid DLC, unlike GT7 updates.

I'm actually disappointed with the number of tracks. Six years waiting for just 20 locations? GT7 launched with 34 locations. My only hope is that they will add more later, although not free as GT7, but high priced DLC.

I'm not that impressed, tbh.
They didn't show anything that made me go wow.

I thought it was already dead. I tried to play recently and the servers for the "1000 Club" were constantly down. It's a shame they didn't make that part of the game offline, as it's a single player component and doesn't need online.

Let's see what happens with the new Forza Motorsport in a few years when the licenses expire and we can't even play single player. This is why no one should be OK with always online.

The price hike doesn't affect me anymore, since I cancelled my sub early this year.

I found that, for me, because I replay games a lot, Game Pass isn't worth it in the long run, since games are there, on average, a year or so. I'd rather pay for them when they're on sale and keep them forever.

I did find it good value for money when I got my Series X last year. It was great for catching up on many games.

@Matthewnh Thanks for your reply. Not as expensive as I thought, and they also last longer than I thought. Will definitely keep this in mind if I see a good deal on one

@Matthewnh Lamp life is what always made me shy away from one. Sounds like a hassle to worry about replacing the lamp, and probably quite expensive too.