Don't Worry, More Final Fantasy Games Are Still Coming To Xbox Game Pass

As the best Final Fantasy and my favorite game of ALL time in my personal opinion:
FINAL FANTASY VI would be my hands down choice.
I've 100% them all over the years, save for XV. I own it, yet haven't delved into it much. Ive always felt the franchise has lost its touch since the release of VII, although I enjoyed VII-XIV.

I figured it was always gonna be a drip feed. Most gamers don't have the time to complete a 60-100 hour game with a few months.

I would love to see the remade version of the original Final Fantasy. That was always my favorite, I enjoyed being able to build different team combinations.

I tied FFX remastered on PS4 PRO back in the day and didn't like it. Too old and clunky. Is FFXV any better? For what it's worth I liked the FFVII Remake demo.

@gollumb82
XV gameplay is action based and is real time combat.
Any mainline final fantasy X and below use a turn based combat system so unless your into that style of game will feel very dated by today's standards

I'm looking forward to trying out the ps3/360 era trilogy. Also, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, of course.

@gollumb82 XV and the VII remake are the same engine and similar gameplay. They're both more like KH than a turn-based FF game.

@Kefka2589 As well ye should hehe
As I said before, watch that thrown Atmaweapon hehe

@Darthroseman @Terrin
That's the thing. I didn't like FFX, but I liked what little I have played of Dragon Quest XI (will defo play more when I'm done with The Outer Worlds). Guess I'll try FFXV since it's on Game Pass and hope for FF7 Remake to come to Xbox.

I would also LOVE to include Final Fantasy: Tactics, yet VI still reigns supreme
As a side note, I would absolutely LOVE to see a remaster of my 2nd favorite game VAGRANT STORY.....PLEASE!!!!!!

Best FFs as determined by me:
1. FF6 (I don’t think any of the other ones even come close to FF6. Not just the best FF, but one of the greatest games ever made.)
2. FF9
3. FF4
4. FF12
5. FF8

Edit: I realize FF7 is a notable absence. I think it’s a bit overrated. It’s good, but I like all of the above games better. I haven’t played the remake, but I probably will when it comes to Xbox.

@gollumb82
I feel anyone that didn't grow up playing the older jrpg titles will most likely not enjoy them. It's the story that drives those games, as up until say the 360, PS3 generation story in games outside of RPGs was non existent.
So XV and KH is more what you will probably enjoy

@Kefka2589 Kefka is a better villain than Sephiroth.

@Kefka2589 Nostalgia has always been a very important factor when it comes to FF7 praise. Most people who hold it to high regard grew up with it and base their opinion off how much they enjoyed it as a kid. Since I never played the game as a kid it never seemed like anything special to me, a well made old PS1 JRPG but never this incredible and spectacular experience that so many fans make it out to be.

I know how that is though, I mean I still rate the original Metal Gear Solid as well as cult platformers like Spyro and Sonic Adventure among my all time top games simply for how much I enjoyed playing them as a kid, even though I am sure people who didn't play them back in the day might wonder what's so special about them.

@JayJ I dunno, Final Fantasy VII is older than me by a good few years. I still love it just as much as X and VI. V was also a big surprise for me, I didn’t expect it to be that brilliant.

Wild prediction: Final Fantasy VII Remake is coming to Game Pass in March.

@RadioHedgeFund I don't expect Remake to release on Xbox until it is finished. As is now, essentially only the tutorial of the original game(Midgar) is available.

Has a very "Uh... What's all?" ending. Kind of the same feeling playi g say, Tales from The Borderlands, finishing episode 1, then having to wait for the others.

@Kefka2589 I'm expecting a similar thing for the next 2 parts. Will keep Xbox lagging behind. And if you're like me, after part 1, you're waiting until all of them are out anyway.

@Kefka2589 I can get on board with that.

It was like at the meeting or something they figured they could make the most money selling each disc as a part. Then they tried to jam extra stuff to make people feel like it is worth buying at ~full price for less than 1/3 of the game.

Calling it now. The second one will end at the City of the Ancients.

@Kefka2589 I agree. I think Sephiroth, the buster sword, and the utilization of FMV in the early PS days is really why this game was a hit. To me, the cast of characters just wasn’t as likable as the casts in the other games. The cast in FF6 is stellar top to bottom (well, maybe not Gau). One of my sons is actually named after Locke. The opera house scene is one of the most memorable set pieces in all of gaming for me (that music). And then, of course, every time you hear Kefka’s laugh offscreen before he makes his entrance. That’s it, I’m booting up my Mini SNES when I get home.

@Trainer I will say FF8 was the one I hesitated most on. I think it’s the ending that pushed it on the list over FF7 for me. I think the FF7 ending was a bit weeby for my taste. Same thing with FF10.

FF is this weird series I love, and it has a certain magic, and yet objectively, not much of it is very good.

IV is a stone cold classic, but I hate the Jobs system.
VI is probably the height of the series.
VII is iconic....I like it a lot....but it was style over substance and the story got worse the more you play.
VIII is just....so.....ugh.... I want to like it. But it tried too hard, tried to be more VII and then the Junction system killed any real enjoyment (supposedly you can skip that now with the remaster.)

IX is, to me (and Sakaguchi, so I'll take that and run with it) the height of the series. It's everything the series ever did right all rolled into one game. It doesn't get the love it deserves. And it doesn't please the edgy games as moves teens and 20-somethings as much as VII and the like.

Everybody loves X.....I like it...I don't love it. It's ok. It's on rails. It's when everything started really going wrong with the series. The intro is both epic and obnoxious and the whole game quickly ostly distills into Bro-suke has some daddy issues.

11 MMO. Skip.

XII was cool. Weird. Cool. It's almost like a WRPG. Not as classic and memorable as some, but the return to fantasy is, to me, a big plus.

XIII I hated at the time. Only after getting it on BC did I start to really enjoy it and, in many ways, am starting to feel it's one of the best of the series. Weird how that works. It does something different and it actually stands up well when you expect it.

14 MMO....people rave about it. I tried it...I just can not get into it. Feels like a 90's PC MMO....it's not working for me, and the PS4 UI is horrendous. On PC maybe it's better.

XV......*sigh.....XV.....I love to hate it and hate to love it....but it's on my internal SSD.......it's that old flame you know will burn you but you say yes anyway because you have to head into the zapper light, you just can't help it.

XVI.....honestly it looks to me like XII-2 in the XV engine....I might be able to get behind that. But it's dipping into the edgelord western dark and depressing sinkhole again. If I want a dreary and depressing JRPG I'll play SMT.....if you're going to do it, do it right.

@Kefka2589 VII is frustrating, fan-wise. What made it "great" in the nostalgia sense is that it was, for a lot of players, their first JRPG in general. The mode of story telling and turn based gameplay was entirely new to most that played it, so for most people it's not really that VII is so amazing, it's that it introduced the idea of the JRPG in general and gave the sense that "it all started here."

Meanwhile in Japan nobody really cared about FF all that much. DQ was the end all, be all of RPGs. It never really caught on uge in the West. The "edgelord" is probably what made it finally catch on. The cool industrial environments overshadowing fluffy animals and magic. I wonder if FFVII part 2 and 3 will pull as big an audience....after Midgar it goes back to fluffy animals and magic half the game.

The game itself....I mean kudos to getting rid of the FFIV Jobs system...hated that thing. Still hate it in Bravely Default. Materia was cool. But the game itself was kinda clunky, and the story was abysmal and got worse as you went. The end chapter doesn't even make sense and is incoherent with the rest of the game.

Honestly I think one of the biggest reasons everyone "loves" it is for the same reason "everyone" loves TLoU2. ~~EdGe~~. It dared to kill off a video game hero. you can't do that. That can't be done. That's not supposed to happen! This changes all the rules! It's emotional! It broke tradition! BEST GaME eVArR!!1 GOTY GOTY GOTY GOAT!!!

I mean, really, what's the point that "everybody keeps talking even months later" about TLoU2? It pulled an Aeris. That's really the game's main talking point. It's like rewinding 20 years. yawn. JPRG fans have done this already. You must be the new kids that only play movies and think its new. Cool.

@InterceptorAlpha That would be the worst cliffhanger ending ever. "I wonder what will happen." Do you need spoiler tags if the spoiler is older than most of the people even reading?

Though I've considered to shake it up and do some fan service.....this game will pull an un-Aeris.....and it won't happen, or won't happen in the same way at the same time.

I think it'll release on Xbox next year. And I think XVI will release the following year. Sony's only paying for one year on this stuff, and Squeenix can't afford to lose the market potential of a whole platform they intend to target for who knows how many years while they finish the trilogy. It might not be until Series Y|T they make the third one. They need to recoup more money faster than that. Especially after their earnings statements...... Heck there may not be a part 3.

I'm betting they use XVI hype from PS to promote VIIR on XB.

@gollumb82 FFVII Remake's battle system is very enjoyable with solid mechanics as well as a semi-pause system which allows you to catch your bearings and strategize a bit.

If you like team synergy - both in gameplay as well as presentation and fluff - you will be amazed at the quality work Square Enix pulled off with this game.

I can't wait for the PC version which will fix (either officially or via mods) the bad textures of the PS4 version.

@Kefka2589 THANK YOU! I've felt that way for years, but I find it very very rare to find someone that agrees. Of the people that actually know the game exists at all, everyone seems to absolutely love it. I thought Bravely Second was BD2....didn't play it through, it had all the same problems as the first one. I tried the demo last week for the real BD2 which apparently BS wasn't? (hehhehe), but I could never really stand it.

Disastrous second half aside, the Jobs system was there to grind just to be forced to grind it, the adventure mostly never happened, and it was just a sequence of boss battles. Never could get on with it.

Octopath was the same. I loved the demo and first chapter, it seemed so addictive. But the full game fell into the same boss battle rush loop the Bravely did.

Heh, yeah, I like FF overall, but it's always tried too hard and tried to be so serious. DQ is where it's at. Colorful, lightyearted, yet behind the lightheartedness there's an absolute darkness that's almost darker due to how colorful and cheery it otherwise is. But It's Japan's pick for a reason! And the reliance on DQ references through Like a Dragon makes me love both even more.

I'd like to have seen Horii's face when Nagoshi asked him if they could use the game inside Yakuza 8.....

@Kefka2589 UNACCEPTABLE!

Squeenix kind of messed up the way they launched 11, but doing it as a Switch exclusive after the flop on PS4 was a good move. Then getting that Switch exclusive to Game Pass was another good move.

@Kefka2589 And the Bravely reference flies right on by.....

Yeah, I never saw the numbers but the PS4 launch in general of DQ was kinda bleak. It's ever so clear now that the Japanese games portion of the "new" PS fanbase.....isn't a very big percentage of the fanbase, unfortunately. Us old-timers bought PS for FF and DQ and Katamari. The new folks buy them for brown apocalypse games and don't care much for the "weeb" stuff.

And in Japan they screwed the launch - it didn't even have voice acting in Japan. At all. That didn't arrive until the Switch version! The release of the S version on PS4 and X1 is the first time the voice acting made it to Japan outside Switch.

And in the west on PS4....'dat music....

I'm still wondering if Xbox will end up being a better home for "big" J-games than PS at this point. PS's market share just isn't representing that demographic these days, and Sony keeps making it ever more clear they don't care about that demographic anymore. The fact that most of the old-school PS stalwarts (Yakuza, DQ, FF) have made the jump makes me optimistic.

True, funny story, I keep saying that the 360 fanbase was toxic, and then it's those same people that jumped ship to PS4 that made it toxic over there. No joke, one of the die-hard "I bleed naughty dog movies" folks over on PS happened to comment to someone that he'd switch from XBox with PS4 and didn't have a PS previously. But of course hates MS because Game Pass will take away the games and make everything mobile.

It's no joke, the toxic PS people are just the XB360 people, they jumped ship and poisoned that well too! Maybe we can be the new "old PS" over here.

@Kefka2589 @NEStalgia actually DQ11s on Switch did significantly worse in Japan than the OG did on other platforms. In the same time frame, the 2D 3DS version sold 1.15 mil, 960k for PS4, the S version was 300k on the Switch and way less for S on the PS4. I can’t say for long term sales just opening weeks, and there are also a lot of JRPGs that also launched that week.

Globally, I think the Switch version made more sense. The West didn’t have a hand held version to fall back on.

Also, I do think Gamepass was a good move for it overall especially during Covid. It sat in Xbox top 50 most played games for a month which for a traditional JRPG is pretty good. There were a lot of other holiday games to play.

@mousieone ohhh, I forgot all about the 3ds version! Yeah, that's the only one that really matters in Japan....

Though I'm surprised ps4 did so well. Ps4s hadn't been doing that well overall, and that version of the game was just cyberjunk levels of incomplete at launch.

@Kefka2589 @Grot Vaan doesn’t hinder the game because Gabranth was intended to be the main protagonist and Vaan was thrown in last minute. It’s why he feels so tacked on. The Japanese fanbase prefers younger protagonists, so the story was shifted. The real thing that breaks the cohesion of that story is them trying to combine the other games to make them all seem like they are set in one world. The timeline is all shades of stupid. They’ve tried to fix it a bit with FF XIV but -_-

@NEStalgia the 3DS version links with the PS4 version of I recall correctly. You could get a code and continue the game on the other system. I just don’t know how often You could do that. But people may have doubled dipped for the game back then.

@Kefka2589 Hmmm well FF XV story is pretty sensical comparatively. Maybe that’s why I don’t care for it as much. I dunno :/

@Kefka2589 Dawn of the Future wasn’t completely scrapped; it was turned into a book which I’ve read. The biggest issue is that the game requires so much “extra content” like a movie, anime, etc that it once those are taken away, you are kind of left with a hole. Which you pointed out. Imagine if in 10 years someone tries to play the base FF XV; its not going to hold up. Unlike most of the others; which are complete. You literally lose entire pieces but when you piece those pieces back together the story is basically Tabata’s warped retelling of the Bible; complete with “King of Kings” reference. Needless to say, I don’t like it. Dawn of the Future kind of goes in its own direction but I’m actually glad ithe whole thing wasn’t playable DLC as much as I would have loved a playable Luna because it destroys the Chocobros ending and their character growth. It does, however, finally give merit to the relationship between Luna and Noctis. Personally, I find that to be unnecessary.

I’m going off on a tangent anyway the story is pretty basic as opposed to say 9, which requires a lot more thinking and has more emotional gravity.

@Kefka2589 For me VI and VII are both over done for two different reasons. I don't dislike them but comparatively I just don't feel the "Magic" that people claim to be there. Then again VII lost it for me around Advent Children =/ I mean Crisis Core is it's own thing and beautiful thing at that though...

XI, on the other hand, is refinement of everything that worked in the past. It's a charming world, endearing characters, and fluid story all make everything work. Not to mention, it's ATB as opposed to X's complete turn based. And you know there are no sigils and crests because why not want to tear my eyeballs out in frustration -____-.

I always always recommend XI to someone who wants to dip their toes into classic FF.