Microsoft Reveals The Xbox Series X Will Launch In November

But with no halo, bit sad but rather see the game launch with raytracing.

Maybe they still can have “early access” Halo infinite multiplayers day one with the Series X launch, though.

Besides, that’s more time of me playing Cyberpunk (please don’t delay THAT any further...)

That Halo delay is gonna be painful for a lot but the right decision I guess. I highly doubt this is the last huge game that gets pushed unfortunately.

what first party games are they launching with

If the price is right, will buy for Xmas.

Not too bothered about a halo delay as long as GamePass is offering strong entertainment.

I kind of assumed the Xbox Series X would be releasing in November, that was almost a given, but what is this about Halo Infinite being delayed?

I've got to say that is... an amazing amount of confidence that Microsoft has in their system if they plan to launch it without their major first party title. I wonder why they delayed it? Could they perhaps have done so for fear of entering Crunch Time (which has been more widely criticised as of late) to get the game done on a set schedule?

@Olliemar28 having Halo day one would had been a big thing, but honestly: it’s only one game with a... what? 20 hour campaign? I planned to spend the bulk of Nov and December playing Watchdogs, Valhalla and Cyberpunk anyways, and I rather play them all on Series X.

The whole generation ***** Spencer was talking has shown its dangers. Good luck on the launch.

Another generation to Sony yet again. But we knew that already, this just speeds up the process.

Whoa, so basically no first party exclusive at launch?? Really?

If the game isn’t ready, then it shouldn’t be released.

But likewise, if there isn’t anything worth buying at launch, then you should hold back on buying the console. Let’s see if Sony have anything really worth playing as well.

@Tharsman You would expect at least one first party game to launch with it though.

Don't get me wrong losing halo is a big issue but at the same time it was a cross-gen release, so it wasn't exactly the big selling point for the console.

If gears of war 5 is launching with series x then we will have a first party game

Actually I think everyone is forgetting there is “Gears Tactics” which has never seen a console release and went up for Pre-Load and was rated recently. It’s been flying under the radar, and I could see them swap marketing for it. I don’t think it has pull of Halo, but it does actually count as new first party game.

I'm really surprised that it's coming out in November. About as surprised as when the sun rises in the morning.

I feel like maybe don’t even launch the console without halo

Yea November was the most predictable month for the XSX to come out. I’m not surprised.

@Medic_Alert yeah I was thinking that it and Gears Tactics are going to become “launch titles” now. Which honestly Flight Sim should have been at the showcase in first place; I was literally thinking that the other day. With Forza 8 being 2021; that game could show off next gen like a Forza could. Why it and Gears Tactics weren’t there I don’t know.

@BANJO Is there no Forza? I haven't been paying attention to it since I don't play Forza.

Maybe this is why they put so much work into BC improvements. Because there isn't anything else to play.

@Menchi no it and Sony’s Gran Turismo were both not “Launch Ready”. Neither system is launching with a first party racing game.

@mousieone Wow even their yearly racer isn't ready?

@Menchi again neither is Sony’s. Covid has affected the industry more than people realize.

Also like it’s been said they could move Flight Sim and Gears Tactics as launch titles

@mousieone Gran Turismo isn't yearly though. They're lucky to bring out 1 a generation. Not sure why you're going hard on the Sony stuff. We're talking 1st party Microsoft stuff at launch.

@teraflop797 Maybe not with Spiderman 6hr standalone DLC built on the same last gen assets and engine.

Take your time with Halo and get it perfect
And using the series x power.

@Menchi I’m saying Covid has effected everyone I almost brought up Nintendo as well but I didn’t think you’d get my references. How many times has Cyber Punk been delayed, and just recently again. Grid got delayed too. Just saying Covids reach is long.

@Chancer28 maybe they can release a Series X Gears 5 with exclusive DLC the way Sony is doing with Spider Man 🙃

Seriously, though, if MS has some B rank title somewhere near ready, it’s time for it to be revealed. Or buy The Medium dev right now and call the title a first party offering.

@Tharsman Gears Tactics hasn’t seen a console release and it was brand new and Just recently rated, it’s possibility.

@mousieone We'll have to agree to disagree

@mousieone Had Gears Tactics not been released for PC already, they could had used that as a marketing tool, as it stands, it would be a weak offering as the only MS first party “launch game.”

They really should had held that title back until it was ready for console, IMO.

I still don’t think a first party offering day one is essential, but it would surely help in the marketing department.

@Tharsman I don’t know about that. Most people buying consoles, probably haven’t played it. Specially in the populace at large. PC gamers sure but how many of them purchase consoles out of the gate.

I do agree the title should have been held back in the first place though.

I'm happy with that - would only be happier if it was sooner....

Now just need a price and pre-ordering information!!

We already knew that they could not have the Series X version of Halo Infinite ready for launch because the developer said that the ray tracing patch wouldn't be ready for launch. In my opinion, this is the right thing to do, it has been done before 100 times this generation but you shouldn't launch a game before it's ready and rely on weekly 50 GB patches. Please, polish the game for Series X and then release all versions (Series X, Xbox One and Windows). There will be a physical edition and it shouldn't be like the beta discs that many people have bought this generation for Xbox One and PS4.

@mousieone I’m not saying it’s not a positive at all, but there is certain psychological punch when a given game the world has never seen launches for the first time at the same time as a console, even if it’s available somewhere else. Having a port of a game that was on PC for months does not carry the same weight, even if it’s still good to have.

@Menchi He is not going hard on Sony but you are going hard on Microsoft. Forza is not yearly, Forza Horizon was released in 2018 and Forza Motorsport 7 in 2017 (different studios). Sony released only one Gran Turismo for PS4 and it was rubbish.

@Jaxx420 Yes but PS5 doesn't have any upgraded PS4 games and PS5's launch game is a rushed spin-off breeze. It's not like there will be much to play on PS5 either. At least on Series X you get the enhanced games if you haven't played them yet.

Anyway, the big games of late 2020 are all third party. Until now, Halo was considered the only big first-party game for late 2020 as PS5 doesn't have any. Like others said, perhaps Microsoft will prepare Flight Simulator and Gears Tactics for launch. Atypical launch games for a new Xbox console but so is Spider-Man visually-upgraded DLC as a next-gen launch game.

Like @Tharsman suggested, if Microsoft released an upgraded Gears 5 with new content it would more or less what Sony is doing but on Xbox we get the remasters for free.

@BlueOcean I didnt mention PS5. And Miles Morales isnt DLC. Thats the latest term used in console war spin. I am not taking part in that no time for it I am getting both so console wars are lost on me 😂

I think both launch lineups are relatively weak which is to be expected we are smack bang in the middle of a pandemic. Most first party games on both sides have suffered delays. Horizon, GT, Forza, possibly Fable too.

Why this is poor is this is a game that has been in development since Halo 5's release. It should have been ready. It wasnt there is no sugar coating that for me. But as with anything. Its my opinion and nothing more.

Series X enhanced games are great but should not be used to market the console launch. A lot of existing owners have played them there needs to be a flagship title to entice them to upgrade. Gears Tactics I am on the fence with. Flight Simulator is geared towards the PC crowd.

@Jaxx420 It's not a console wars and you're free to love Sony's choice but it's as true as the fact that Halo Infinite is a cross-gen game. Miles Morales is visually-upgraded DLC of a PS4 game sold as a standalone next-gen game. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a single launch exclusive for PS5 (apart from Astro technology demo/mini games). The pandemic and the next-generation tools need more time.

As I said above, the big games of late 2020 are all third-party since Halo is delayed. So it's going to be about where to play Cyberpunk and Assassin's Creed on. On Series X you get the free remasters, too. At least for third-party games, Series X will be the better platform. For exclusives, we'll have to wait with both consoles.

This was terrible marketing from Microsoft. By trying to soften the blow of Halo Infinites delay they've mixed the message of a firm console release date.
It feels to me as if they're saying "hey, halo is delayed but here's the console anyway..."
Disappointing to say the least. I still have a preference for Series X over PS5 but still disappointing

@BlueOcean It is console war spin. No one knows anything about the game length yet to call it DLC. People are bashing it as DLC because of some poor comms by Insomniac initially that has been jumped on.

But I am neutral with it. I dont think its enough for Sonys launch either but besides the point.

Launching your console for me needs a flagship launch title on it. A killer app. Those invested in the PS4 are not too likely to move over/upgrade just for third party games or games with next gen patches.

But I dont disagree with you. The big games of 2020 are all third party. And thats a problem for both companies launching new machines to be honest.

In a rosy coloured world they should launch next Spring. But its business they cant ignore the holiday season I guess. Launching in the holidays with a weak first party lineup is better than not launching in the holidays.

@Jaxx420 I don’t think Sony has at any point walked back the comments about the game scale, if anything, they have doubled down on the Uncharted Lost Legacy comparisons, a game that’s widely known to be standalone DLC.

Also got to say: for a game that is the only first party offering for the PS5, we have seen absolutely no gameplay. I would think, if they were proud of what the game looks like, it would had been shown alongside, or instead of, Ratchet and clank.

I still want to play that spider man game, though, but I won’t buy a PS5 until the exclusive library becomes big enough, since I plan to buy and play all multi-play games on XSX.

@Tharsman I don’t disagree with you at all; it’s completely true in most cases. I’m just not sure how many people knew the game existed before. If I’m honest, not a lot of people talked about it. I think the game up until this point hasn’t been marketed enough. Also recent ports of P4G have shown going from a handheld to a computer or Witcher 3 to Switch have shown sometimes they do sell. But it’s definitely difficult to use for your egg basket, true.

@pip_muzz I think that’s actually why they soft launched xCloud today. They knew this was coming.

@Tharsman At one point it was communicated as Spiderman remastered with some extra Miles Morales content. That was the miscommunication.

Again. I dont disagree though. No gameplay cant judge it.

My point was third party games and patches wont be enough to entice too many Playstation only gamers over to Xbox at launch. Halo is a big loss for that.

That being said. It begs another question. Do Microsoft care as much as they would have in a previous gen? With Xcloud launching I am not so sure as they can grab some of those gamers that way anyway.

@Jaxx420 It isn't really but if you complain about the lack of Series X exclusives at launch (you have the right to) but not about PS5 launch lineup (which is questionable) it's expected that somebody will tell you that PS5 has a rushed spin-off and not a full next-gen game. Same happen when people bash Halo Infinite because a PC beta didn't look next-gen, then people will say that Spider-Man is a cash-grab cinematic affair. Microsoft could sell Gears 5 remastered with new content as the next-gen exclusive but they won't, you'll get Gears 5 Remastered for free. You'll get Spider-Man upgraded DLC as a "new" "next-gen" game.

Remember that PS4 didn't have games for over one year but it sold a lot (I bought one!) because of the brand's popularity and because Microsoft and Nintendo were messing up in 2012-13. You don't necessarily need a flag game for a new console launch. PS4 and 3DS didn't have any and I think the launch Xbox One games were more interesting than whatever PS4 had at the time (I was playing remasters/ports for over a year on PS4). You need to either have games early on or have a more attractive product. For instance, 3DS got Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 and the price was reduced, PS4 didn't have anything but it didn't have competition either, Xbox One and Wii U had something (Killer Instinct, Super Mario Bros. U...) but marketing and pricing was a mess.

Microsoft doesn't really need to sell Series X in 2020, that's not that important but because it's attractive hardware (most powerful console for third-party games) and has Game Pass it will sell well in 2021 and will boost Xbox popularity within the Xbox ecosystem. It's Sony that really needs PS5 to sell well and it will because of, again, the popularity of the brand, even if PS5 is less powerful, costs the same as Series X and doesn't have much to offer at launch.

@Jaxx420 I dont expect any PS-only gamer to make the jump. If anything, some of them might join GamePass and stream games, and as far as MS is concerned, they ARE financing their own XBox One X on a server tray at their data centers.

I think MS cares more about recovering customers they lost last gen, convincing newer gamers that the xbox is the best platform, and convincing multi-plat gamers that they should play all those games on an XBox or GamePass over a PS4 or Steam (even if they sell their games own on Steam.)

I already seen very anti-Microsoft posters actually say they plan to play MS games via xCloud on their phones and docked to their TVs (phone-a-la-switch.) Once there, who knows how many will just play games via xCloud that they would had otherwise played on PS4|5.

@BlueOcean I wouldnt really complain too much about the PS5 launch lineup as this is a thread about Xbox but ill put it out there - I think their launch lineup is weak as well.

I just think Halo has had a lot more development time than other first party titles and should have been ready and weakens the lineup overall. Not to mention a huge marketing opportunity pushed back.

Again I may be wrong but like anything on a forum - opinion. I wouldnt say anyone else was wrong for saying the opposite to me.

@Jaxx420 I only say that you are wrong when suggesting that I'm putting a console war spin to it because I am not. I'm being totally objective here.

@Jaxx420 Spiderman miles morales game was confirmed to have half of the length of the original PS4 title. yes, it's a standalone DLC just like Uncharted lost legacy.

"You’ll experience a full story arc with Miles, one that’s more akin to a game like Uncharted: The Lost Legacy in terms of overall scope." - Brian Horton, Spidereman Miles Morales Creative Director

source: https://www.psu.com/news/spider-man-miles-morales-game-length-will-potentially-be-around-7-10-hours/

@Tharsman I expect next generation to be like last generation when all three were quite the same in market share terms except for Nintendo's short-lived Wii dominance. Microsoft will recover customer with Series X, Game Pass and xCloud and many Nintendo gamers with a Switch will also have a Series X or Series S, of that I'm sure. Sony's fans will of course buy PS5 (even without games) but many PS4 owners, you and me included, got it because Xbox One was bigger, more expensive, etc., so some PS4 owners won't get PS5, I'm totally sure. Of course, PS5 will be a success but more like PS3 and less like PS4.

@duhsoares21 Thanks for the link 😅👍.

@BlueOcean I myself plan to get a PS5, but given how I dont plan to play any multi-platform games on that console, I wont be doing so until there are enough PS5 permanent (not timed) exclusives for me to justify the purchase. Maybe a year later, maybe two. I didnt feel the PS3 was worth it until TLOU was already out, though.

@duhsoares21 Lost Legacy was a standalone spinoff. Not DLC. DLC is content attached to the original game.

But again its weak to be throwing your launch behind it. Sony needed more too.

@Tharsman Yes, I was just referring to your intention to not get PS5 for the moment as an example but I insist that PS5 won't sell 112.5M like PS4 regardless of your purchase 😆.

@BlueOcean oh even if microsoft got out of the market, I doubt the PS5 will sell anywhere near as well as the PS4.

Sony didn't just happen to be lucky with Microsoft dropping the ball, dont forget on the other side Nintendo had the Wii U. Sony will never again be in such a perfect position ever again.

@Tharsman Exactly, Wii U was one year old and going nowhere and Microsoft released a huge VCR bundle including Kinect and a charger brick and 100 more expensive than Sony's sleek and more powerful (GPU-wise) console. PS4 had no real competition.

@BlueOcean "Do microsoft not have 1st party games at launch? What about their usual yearly game?"

"BUT SONY THO!"

That's gonna be a no from me dawg

@Menchi I picked Sony as an example because I didn’t think you’d get the reference to Nintendo and I didn’t want to bring out a long list of games that were messed up by Covid. My point was it’s problem with industry.

Now I know I’m annoying to you but the least of all is that you can see my point was to compare the entirety of the industry, this is the second time I’ve explained that. Not just Sony but literally everyone.

Washington was one of the first States with a Covid Problem and MS issued the orders before the State required it. I know Halos been in development for a long time, and whether you believe it’s impacted them is up you.

Again sorry for troubling you, but that was my point. Not oh Sony bad. Again I only singled out Sony to prove everyone is having issues.

No suprise here, I think we all knew the system was coming out in november.. I'll deff be getting mine in november when the Series X launches..

@Jaxx420 : I'm starting to think the normal holiday sales bonanza may end up a disaster for the new consoles. Wouldn't be surprised to see PS4 and Xbox one bundled with multiple games or subscriptions sell much better, especially at at 250 or 299 price point. Nintendo will likely offer some bundle to undercut these current gen competition. The U.S. economy is tanking, and the world economy is going to lag for awhile. A cheap bundled console with a large library may win out in a very weird holiday season.

Thousands of backwards compatible titles?? Oh hell yea! Was a Day 1 anyway but sooo happy to carry my Xbox library forward!!! It’s just huge!

Surely everyone knew the release date of this system. I mean a release title is out on 17th of November so that’s when it will be released

I'm still quite curious about the Series S.. How next gen will it be? Will this console also come out in November?

@Jaxx420 I've said before that we don't know the full launch line-up of either console yet. But since MS has delayed Halo, that's one less game at least.

I expect Sony to announce more soon. Rumours are that GT7 is going to be a launch title, or maybe Ratchet & Clank. Either way, it'll come with Astro's Playroom at least. That's something lol (I'm genuinely looking forward to it). If we're looking at R&C or GT7, with Spider-Man: MM and a free game in the form of Astro's Playroom, that's pretty decent. Especially if either R&C or GT7 is coming soon in 2021, along with Demon's Souls and Horizon 2. And I forgot about the Sackboy platformer as well. I think it'll make for a good launch year, much better than the PS4's first year.

@Octane I doubt that Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank will be available at launch and I also doubt that Horizon will be a 2021 game as you suggested on Nintendo Life. Right now all that PS5 has is the short Spider-Man spin-off and the technology demo/mini games showcase Astro's Playroom.

@BlueOcean Well, we shall see...

Horizon 2 is confirmed for 2021 by the way.

@Octane Horizon late 2021 perhaps if not delayed. Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank won't be seen at launch. Yes, we'll see...

Sony is being extremely mysterious anyway.

It’s strange times for a new generation launch for both companies.
Both don’t seem that ready with must buy exclusives for the new consoles.
They maybe both should delay until May 2021 with a must have exclusive or two for each. PS4 still sells so does the one s, they also could return the one x until then as well.
All third party game’s this Christmas are on current generation anyway.

@Cyberbotv2 If PS4 and Xbox One sell better it will still increase PS Plus/Game Pass subscribers so money gets made.

Early adopters mainly will buy them and that's who you tend to target at launch anyway.

@BlueOcean They don't really do holiday titles. Their big games always release around March-May or July-September. So I definitely expect Horizon 2 within a year of launch (if it doesn't get delayed of course, because you can't ever know for sure).

@Medic_Alert Right, I haven't read "Horizon confirmed for 2021" anywhere except for Octane, the developer aims for 2021, we know how this ends. If it's not late 2021 to not disappoint it will be 2022 more likely. Besides, I haven't read anywhere that Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank are launch games like Octane suggests on several websites, not to mention that the development cycles of Sony's main studios are pretty long. It looks like Sony is being extremely mysterious about next generation, not even Spider-Man has been shown (gameplay) and they wait for Microsoft before doing anything: console reveal, specifications reveal, price reveal...

I always look forward to a day one game that shows off the new features.... Is there anything to do this?
I'm on game pass ultimate, so yes I'll get all those 100+ backwards compatibility, great, but upgrading from One X, I have already marveled at eg Alan Wake and the 4k advancements.
Anyway, I'll buy day 1 but can help thinking it'll be a disappointment
Main reasons to buy (for me!) are to get faster loading on eg RDR2, which I've been holding off playing.
Oh and the sooner the new AC is out the better lol

@Porridge2215
Fletcher, you could attach a solid state drive to your one x. Loads are a lot quicker I use one it’s great.

I'm not really fussed about Halo myself. I'll get a SX as it's the most powerful console and game pass is great value. But I'm not traditionally a XBox player so don't have any historic attachment to Halo.

@Menchi
That's a crazy way to look at it. OK, Microsoft is stumbling on its Xbox Series X launch. Nobody is going to forget that it's the most powerful console you can purchase. And that all third party games will look batter.

@Jaxx420 I don’t think PSNPlis has much room to grow. I dare bet almost anyone buying a PS5 already owns a PS4, and unless Sony starts demanding PSN+ to play F2P games, there will be very little incentive to subscribe if they were not subscribed already.

XBox is a lot more likely to sell to new customers, even if not by much, and GamePass also has a lot of growth potential even among existing XBox users.

Also, as mentioned by others, Horizon 2 coming on 2021 is just dev wishful thinking. Sony themselves didn’t feel confident enough to put a year in the teaser. I’m personally betting for a early 2022 release. COVID related delays are not just going to push back this years releases, but almost any release for the next 2 years, after all. Either that, or force reducing the scope of some games.

@Dezzy70 already have external ssd, use it on all games I actively play. Huge difference.
But proves my point that One X users get diminishing 'returns' and that's the price you pay when you want to have the latest and greatest.
I'll just feel a lot better when there is killer app to make my jaw drop in amazement, even though I am with MS when it comes to game pass brilliance
But a Sony fan, and will never get PSN, but would get an instant fix of next gen with ratchet and clank as a day one release...

I always feel better with a killer app for next generation day one purchase.
I don’t think either side will deliver that for this next generation day one.
I still believe they should both delay console launch until say May 2021. Then Xbox might get Halo and PS5 Ratchet and Clank.

@Tharsman I think PS Plus will get overhauled a bit, but time will tell on that.

@Dezzy70 @Dezzy70 already have and that's probably why I'm looking forward to even faster loading.
Going the half generation with the One X I suppose I should have expected with diminished return on investing on the next gen.
But spending all that money for launch day and not seeing something really special. Mmm.
Much though i detest Sony and PSN, the thoughts of ratchet and clank with its game play, Ray tracing, next gen, SSD etc (even if it ends up being checkerbox 4k) is launch day, well, it's pretty appealing

@Porridge2215
You won’t see R&C day one. Spider man is confirmed holiday 2020. Never known to have two games from the same studio day one.

I wonder if they will have enough supply to even fulfill preorders. Missing any real launch title might make that more likely, especially with PS5 launching with Spiderman 1.5 to go up against. OTOH, the Cyberpunk marketing may make it count as an XSeX launch game anyway.

The only confirmed launch "games" for PS5 are Spider-Man standalone DLC and the Astro technology demo/mini games collection. Ratchet & Clank, Gran Turismo and Horizon don't have release date. Now that Halo is delayed it's all about third parties.