@BrilliantBill They've certainly made an effort to show that this will be different from Halo 5 in terms of visuals. I'm just worried they'll repeat the mistakes of Halo 5 by getting the narrative so completely off the mark again.
@elpardo1984 "Anti-woke types" - you mean normal people who are just sick of political activists ruining every entertainment franchise in existence by weaponizing them in their pursuit of social engineering?
And STOP with that straw-man BS about people being intimidated by female protagonists. No one cares if a protagonist is female. It's when it's done in a "woke" way that it bothers people. Alien Isolation, Mirror's Edge, Control, Resident Evil 3 (and half of 2), The Medium, Recore, Half Life: Alyx - no one has a problem with these female-protagonist games because they're not done in a "woke" or "feminist" way.
In case you don't know what a woke or feminist way means, it's simple: when the female protagonist is perfect in every way, has zero flaws, is a total Mary Sue "Insert Self Here" character for "woke" female gamers - because apparently for some reason "woke" people need their protagonists to look and sound like them in order to enjoy anything (which isn't narcissistic or egotistical in any way and doesn't say anything at all about the mental state of the person in question...)
A "woke game" isn't simply a game with a female protagonist. That on its own is fine. A "woke game" is one where the female protagonist is genius level intelligent and every male character around her is a dumb, blithering idiot. It's where the female protagonist isn't just strong, she's superhuman strong surrounded by a bunch of weak, pathetic men who can't do anything right. It's where the entire game feels like some lecture, as though the writers assumed the player playing it would be a misogynist who needs to be shown a thing or two and cut down to size.
OR it's where the female characters look like men in women suits. Depicting insanely masculinized women as the norm in entertainment is part of an agenda to push an ideological belief that gender is entirely a "social construct" onto the population. In reality, women like that are less than 1% of women. The ironic thing is female characters like that USED to be cool (Vasquez in Aliens, for instance), but the Wokesters have ruined them by weaponizing them. When EVERY female character in a game or movie is one of those, it ceases to be cool and becomes a pathetically obvious propaganda piece.
The female character in this new Saints Row looks like a typical Feminatrix. She has the I-Hate-Men haircut and hipster clothes. While it might be unfair to judge at this stage it's a pretty safe assumption what kind of female character she will be.
No one has a problem with female protagonists in general. It's the TYPE of female protagonist that is the issue. That's why when I watch the Halo Infinite Multiplayer trailer I can roll my eyes, yet be pretty excited to play Tormented Souls.
I'm a campaign guy. Couldn't care less about multiplayer. After the debacle that was Halo 5's campaign they've had over 5 years to make sure they get this one right, so if they don't it will be 100% on them.
Still have no idea how they can continue Halo 5's story line and somehow tie it into this new Banished + Zeta Halo story line.
@BrilliantBill The thing is, they said that's kind of what they DID do after Halo 5, which is one of the reasons Infinite has taken so long....but from everything coming out about the development, it seems like they just didn't learn anything.
@MasMenno Agreed. Not only are they annoying but they actually cause players to not play game modes "correctly." You end up in a game of CTF where half the players want to play a serious game of CTF while the other half are just running around fulfilling the challenge requirements. And I'm saying that as someone who is quite certainly the latter.
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@BrilliantBill They've certainly made an effort to show that this will be different from Halo 5 in terms of visuals. I'm just worried they'll repeat the mistakes of Halo 5 by getting the narrative so completely off the mark again.
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@elpardo1984 "Anti-woke types" - you mean normal people who are just sick of political activists ruining every entertainment franchise in existence by weaponizing them in their pursuit of social engineering?
And STOP with that straw-man BS about people being intimidated by female protagonists. No one cares if a protagonist is female. It's when it's done in a "woke" way that it bothers people. Alien Isolation, Mirror's Edge, Control, Resident Evil 3 (and half of 2), The Medium, Recore, Half Life: Alyx - no one has a problem with these female-protagonist games because they're not done in a "woke" or "feminist" way.
In case you don't know what a woke or feminist way means, it's simple: when the female protagonist is perfect in every way, has zero flaws, is a total Mary Sue "Insert Self Here" character for "woke" female gamers - because apparently for some reason "woke" people need their protagonists to look and sound like them in order to enjoy anything (which isn't narcissistic or egotistical in any way and doesn't say anything at all about the mental state of the person in question...)
A "woke game" isn't simply a game with a female protagonist. That on its own is fine. A "woke game" is one where the female protagonist is genius level intelligent and every male character around her is a dumb, blithering idiot. It's where the female protagonist isn't just strong, she's superhuman strong surrounded by a bunch of weak, pathetic men who can't do anything right. It's where the entire game feels like some lecture, as though the writers assumed the player playing it would be a misogynist who needs to be shown a thing or two and cut down to size.
OR it's where the female characters look like men in women suits. Depicting insanely masculinized women as the norm in entertainment is part of an agenda to push an ideological belief that gender is entirely a "social construct" onto the population. In reality, women like that are less than 1% of women. The ironic thing is female characters like that USED to be cool (Vasquez in Aliens, for instance), but the Wokesters have ruined them by weaponizing them. When EVERY female character in a game or movie is one of those, it ceases to be cool and becomes a pathetically obvious propaganda piece.
The female character in this new Saints Row looks like a typical Feminatrix. She has the I-Hate-Men haircut and hipster clothes. While it might be unfair to judge at this stage it's a pretty safe assumption what kind of female character she will be.
No one has a problem with female protagonists in general. It's the TYPE of female protagonist that is the issue. That's why when I watch the Halo Infinite Multiplayer trailer I can roll my eyes, yet be pretty excited to play Tormented Souls.
Re: Talking Point: How Are You Feeling About Halo Infinite After Recent News?
I'm a campaign guy. Couldn't care less about multiplayer. After the debacle that was Halo 5's campaign they've had over 5 years to make sure they get this one right, so if they don't it will be 100% on them.
Still have no idea how they can continue Halo 5's story line and somehow tie it into this new Banished + Zeta Halo story line.
Re: Talking Point: How Are You Feeling About Halo Infinite After Recent News?
@BrilliantBill The thing is, they said that's kind of what they DID do after Halo 5, which is one of the reasons Infinite has taken so long....but from everything coming out about the development, it seems like they just didn't learn anything.
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@MasMenno Agreed. Not only are they annoying but they actually cause players to not play game modes "correctly." You end up in a game of CTF where half the players want to play a serious game of CTF while the other half are just running around fulfilling the challenge requirements. And I'm saying that as someone who is quite certainly the latter.