We've been seeing a lot of footage of backwards compatible games on the Xbox Series X over the past week-or-so, but something we're still waiting on is next-gen gameplay running on the system.
Microsoft highlighted earlier this week that it would be sharing more details on Xbox Series launch titles later in October, and GM of Xbox Games Marketing Aaron Greenberg spoke a bit more about this on a recent Dealer Gaming podcast.
Asked the question about when we'd see next-gen games running on the Series X, Greenberg admitted that we've haven't seen much so far, and it's due to the team trying to be patient with developers.
"While we've shown Series X spec, most games are largely built on PC if you look at prior gens, but I hear you - we did show Series S with Gears running at 120 frames because we wanted to show that the product absolutely can deliver, and you're going to see more of the Series X gameplay as we get closer to launch.
We also realise that developers are ramping for a new console launch, they're also dealing with the pandemic, so we're trying to be patient with everybody, but what we're hearing is generally really, really positive. The most important thing to focus on is making sure they deliver the games on time at quality.
And so, more marketing assets are kind of a tax on some of those teams so we're trying to be selective about those, and letting them prioritise getting the games done."
Greenberg went on to explain that we'll start to see footage of more optimised titles for Xbox Series X as we get closer to launch, followed by next-gen games that are built specifically for the console.
Happy with the explanation? Getting antsy for some Series X gameplay? Let us know down below.
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Jesus, finally they are getting on with it.
Even though I won’t get an XSX, I still want to know how optimized next gen games run.
There’s a reason why only Xbox has been transparent all along, they have disclosed a full naked hardware breakdown with Digitalfoundry way back in February. There’s a reason why Microsoft waited longer before locking down on specs, which’s why devs got their kits way later. Everything will be ultimately revealed crystal clear later this year when Digitalfoundry shows the Cyberpunk gameplay comparison finally.
Some would be nice. Currently I haven’t seen any next gen games looking as good as demon souls on PS5. Come on Xbox show us what the X can do!! (I’m sure it’s just as good)
I would like to see some next gen gameplay of course but the pandemic has made things difficult for everyone! I'd rather they show something they are happy with then some terrible early development gameplay!
Microsoft's transparency approach worked at first up to a point. Then since May it's been a mess. Not as bad as Sony's approach, but it's gone from good to bad.
"We can only show so much" then why even start with something old?
They gave Xbox consoles to youtubers with high production values and specifically embargoed the next gen gameplay footage. They don't WANT it out there.
Probably because last time they showed "next gen" it was a mess with Halo, and that was the superior version above Xbox Series X.
Fire Greenberg.
@Menchi also they boast that they have the most powerful console ever but have showed no evidence graphically, and like you said they showed halo which had current gen graphics, heck some of this gens graphics were better than halo infinites.
They need to show some actual gameplay from multiple games (preferable first party) to get people more hyped.
Didn't they show 2K20? That looked pretty impressive graphically.
To be fair I'm getting an Xbox to have game pass and all the games from last gen I missed out on so the Xbox not getting any true next gen games for a while doesn't bother me.
@Menchi I agree. So what’s the problem, because the specs are pretty nice right?
@Fenbops Either their dev kit sucks (why is raytracing getting patched into games post launch yet launching on PS5?) or the 1st party studios are still churning out low quality stuff.s
Well that 2nd is a given at this point sadly.
@StonyKL Captured on a PS5
Well, least this proves they are indeed listening. Can't wait for next month, gonna be one heck of a hype.
To be perfectly honest I don't care if we see no games running before launch, my preorders for X and S are done and I'm excited enough by what we know already.
My current huge library (and backlog!) will all work and look better/play better/load faster, that is already very cool.
First party games will be in gamepass, so we will have something to play, flight simulator will come shortly after. Third party games that we see PS5 footage of will look the same or better, not sure what gameplay footage will do for me now anyway. 🤷🏻♂️ If you're in you're in.
@JetmanUK @Bruvas
I agree with you guys. I am in regardless of what they show off. But if it’ll shut all the whiners up, than maybe they should put out some footage.
People are always looking to trash on Xbox, for some reason. Microsoft would be wise to stop feeding the trolls any ammo.
@StonyKL @Menchi PureXB showed NBA footage captured on PS5, and Push Square showed a Yakuza trailer captured on an XSeX...... no idea why, but if you want to see "next gen" games running on Series X, apparently you have to look on Push Square....
That's a trailer so it's edited. Looks good. Honestly other than Demon's Souls, nothing "next gen" looks terribly impressive. And Demon's Souls is checkerboard 60fps in a narrow corridor game. Beautiful rendering but not exactly amazeballs open world grandeur or anything. It's mostly a refinement on the last gen, which is fine by me...that was a rough gen. But I think there's too much "next gen" talk rather than looking at what's actually enhanced. ratracing is great, and should work fine on both machines. Done right, though you shouldn't really notice it's there. It should just be a refinement on lighting. Lets see where fps are stable.
@NEStalgia It's such a shame, so many mix ups and crossed wires all because of money and marketing. And it seems each console sadly has shortcomings. The actual next gen looking game (Demon's Souls, PS5/PC) feels compromised on console because it's either 4k/30fps or lower res, lower quality 60fps not maintained. Meanwhile Xbox is MIA.
@NEStalgia didn’t realise. I read both push square and Pure Xbox and all multi plats are genuinely indistinguishable between them anyway.
I do agree that Demon’s soul and 2K21 Look the most next gen by a long way, but for a first start on next gen they do look pretty decent. Remember the first game this gen - black flag I think was mine and comparing that to last of us 2 it feels like a different generation. Not a bad start so far I reckon.
@Menchi Of course each console has shortcomings compared to an top of the line gaming PC, but when you're getting a whole machine for the cost of a video card that performs quite well, there's still value to them. I'm not so enthused with "native or non native" 4k as long as it looks sharp and detailed at 4k. DF has a great writeup (PC-centric, though I don't have the link) of DLSS2 versus native 4k and the results confirm that native 4k is probably a useless waste of resources in most scenarios. If games can target 1440p, upscale to 4k and still look tack sharp, I don't care much if the spec is native or not. As long as it maintains framerate.
However, Souls is a bit worrisome in that it doesn't, as you say, maintain stable 60 even at 1440p.
XSX is effectively running a 2080.....I would expect its performance would be ballpark with the real deal.
@StonyKL Yeah, the cross gen at launch is always a bit rough, so it will certainly get better as we go, as it always does! Souls looks good, but it's also a corridor game with the level design based on PS3s limitations, more or less. We'll see where we go when we start getting more open environments. Spiderman's "remaster" isn't encouraging, but it's also just a patch no matter how much they try to call it a remaster. It adds raytracing, but it can't fix the game's total design for PS4.
@NEStalgia "Next gen" eh? The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@Menchi Unlike Sony Corp, I don't believe in generations BUT it's the common term now for required nvme IO speeds, raytracing, RDNA2 features, etc.....
We used to just call it "DirectX 10.1, 10.2, 11"
I'm not super impressed with anything I've seen so far, including Demon's Souls. It's easy to go all out on graphics when you have the whole game mapped out for you already with level design, mechanics, and gameplay based on a PS3 game from 11 years ago. I'm actually not that impressed with the graphics either.
I am perfectly fine playing a lot of present gen games on the XSX. That's why I'm buying it, actually. I know there isn't much from either console at launch but I have lots of games that I haven't finished yet, some I haven't even started playing. I'm perfectly happy working on finishing those games for a while and happily waiting for upcoming games down the road. Most of the games are going to perform better as well so I can't complain.
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