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KilloWertz

I guess nobody really said that you have to be smart to work in the media.

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LtSarge

This is very interesting:

Granted, it's only one week but I still can't help but think that Xbox is steadily gaining more momentum in Japan when compared to PlayStation. Affordability with Series S and accessibility with Game Pass are surely the primary reasons why a person in Japan would choose an Xbox over a PlayStation, especially when considering that Microsoft is doing a decent job of including Japanese games in the service.

It's also worth mentioning that these are only hardware numbers. It would be more interesting to see how many people are subscribed to Game Pass in Japan.

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Banjo-

@LtSarge Very interesting, indeed. More than the media noticing that PS5 are more expensive @KilloWertz 😲 but the pricing getting included in the equation is meaningful because it's usually about the "exclusives" and how better PS exclusives supposedly are. I've read articles that say "PS have the exclusives. Xbox has Game Pass" What do they mean? That you can buy Xbox games on PC or that Xbox don't have exclusives? Or that only PS exclusives matter?!

It's amazing seeing Xbox performing so well in Japan. I honestly didn't expect it.

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KilloWertz

@BlueOcean Did I get accidentally tagged?

While I'm here though, I would take it that they mean that Xbox doesn't have the exclusives. In a sense, I would agree with them, although that narrative will have to change within a few years at most. Things are finally getting back to the way they were way back in the day.

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Banjo-

KilloWertz wrote:

I guess nobody really said that you have to be smart to work in the media.

Because of that comment 😂.

The narrative should change. Quiet first year on both Series X and PS5, in between.

Banjo-

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LtSarge

@BlueOcean The thing is that the PS exclusives that Sony is known for aren't really that popular in Japan. Games like Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, The Last of Us, Uncharted, Spider-Man and so on appeal more to a Western audience. Even a game like Ghost of Tsushima, which takes place in Japan, has still that western feel to it. If anything, it's Nintendo exclusives that the Japanese people want more. That's why Microsoft has to approach the Japanese market cautiously so that they won't push their "Western titles" on them. And honestly, I think their current approach with Game Pass is going great so far but there's still a long way to go. More Japanese offerings need to be added to the service and I personally think it would be awesome if Microsoft could acquire at least one publisher in Japan in order to make that happen. I've mentioned this before but I would love for Square Enix to be part of Xbox Game Studios. I don't think Microsoft needs more than them. After all, they have Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, Star Ocean, the Chrono series, the Mana series, SaGa and those are only the JRPG franchises. Add to that Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, Just Cause and Life is Strange and you got some series that will appeal to a Western audience as well.

I truly believe that if Microsoft acquired Square Enix that it would be an absolute force to be reckoned with in the Japanese gaming market. The Japanese people already love playing their games on smart devices. Now imagine if you could access any Square Enix games on your smart devices with Project xCloud. Since Japan has a great online infrastructure, that would make Game Pass Ultimate such an appealing service for them.

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Balta666

@LtSarge Xbox is selling much better than previous gen but I would not read that Xbox is very close to ps5 in demand atm. I believe is more a case of Sony ignoring Japan and not providing systems.

Balta666

Balta666

@BlueOcean to be fair PlayStation is trying to do the same thing as Nintendo in terms of exclusives. Why would they lower the peixes if the games keep selling regardless. I would even add that one reason games like FF vii or guardians of the Galaxy underperformed is because people know games for third parties lower their preciso ratter quickly.
Also the biggest markets factor of PlayStation is their exclusives and of Xbox is game pass. I don't see nothing strange about that (gamepass was the reason I bought a Xbox and not a ps5 for instance)

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Banjo-

@LtSarge That would have a great impact on the Japanese market, indeed. I have considered smaller companies like Koei Tecmo.

@Balta666 The fact that it has already surpassed Xbox One even if that means that is selling "more than nothing" is meaningful.

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Banjo-

Balta666 wrote:

@BlueOcean to be fair PlayStation is trying to do the same thing as Nintendo in terms of exclusives. Why would they lower the peixes if the games keep selling regardless. I would even add that one reason games like FF vii or guardians of the Galaxy underperformed is because people know games for third parties lower their preciso ratter quickly.
Also the biggest markets factor of PlayStation is their exclusives and of Xbox is game pass. I don't see nothing strange about that (gamepass was the reason I bought a Xbox and not a ps5 for instance)

I agree, Sony is becoming like Nintendo in that sense, they're making their exclusives more expensive than ever and first-party sales are being restricted. They used to be 50% off and now they are 33% off. They also said that people have to buy the PS5 version of PS4 games separately but, because of the backlash, they backtracked. Nintendo is the worst with their overpriced ports and their A and AA games priced as AAA games, though.

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Balta666

BlueOcean wrote:

@LtSarge That would have a great impact on the Japanese market, indeed. I have considered smaller companies like Koei Tecmo.

@Balta666 The fact that it has already surpassed Xbox One even if that means that is selling "more than nothing" is meaningful.

I partially agree as Xbox one is not an example as it sold only about 100000 units... Xbox 360 sold around 1.6M and that is something a new system from Microsoft should target imo to be consider successful in the market

Balta666

Banjo-

@Balta666 If Series X/S sell more than 1.6M in Japan that would be a resounding success because we have to consider the fact that Cloud didn't exist until now.

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Balta666

@BlueOcean is hard for me to agree that Nintendo is worst than Sony in this regard when the prices on the US went up 10$ but in europe, canada, Australia, etc went up double than that in most cases. It is kind of ridiculous

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Balta666

@BlueOcean indeed, but we are talking about a market that sells over 100k units weekly. I believe it can sell those 360 numbers if they keep pushing gamepass and japanese deals

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Banjo-

@Balta666 I have a PS4, not a PS5 and one of the many reasons is that Sony's prices went through the roof. I don't like Nintendo's pricing on Switch, especially for individual ports but I guess PS5 is worse, overall. They used to be good deals on PS4 like The Nathan Drake Collection and Wipeout Omega Collection. Even The Last of Us Remastered was slightly cheaper than a new game but on PS5 there aren't any good deals and everything is more expensive than ever before.

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LtSarge

@Balta666 Yeah I just thought this was interesting in general but you may very well be correct.

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LtSarge

Microsoft is continuing to market Game Pass in Japan:

Another VTuber was playing Ori and the Blind Forest yesterday. It feels like they've improved their marketing since Ori and Forza definitely fit those two streamers, especially the latter since she likes racing games. Really cool to see her play Forza Horizon 5 and the stream even got over 200k views! Pretty cool stuff, hopefully Microsoft will keep this up and maybe even acquire a Japanese publisher in the future. Japan is a good market for them in terms of Game Pass.

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Grumblevolcano

When do we think the expansions for FH5 will release? I'm leaning towards June for the first expansion as Microsoft has previously revealed FH expansions at big events (e.g. Fortune Island was at X018, Lego Speed Champions was at E3 2019).

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