Interestingly, Tales Of Arise Doesn't Support Smart Delivery On Xbox

I think this is a great move but surely costs more to do? I don't think it's something that will catch on with other devs

As a meme says: "what the f... is this?"

So disc 1 is Xbox One and Disc 2 is Series X? I didn't think there were any cross games on Xbox that have multiple achievement lists for the same game. Do you have to buy Xbox One version for both discs?

Not fond of it, unless I’m missing something it means save files can’t move seamlessly between the two consoles.

Can’t they somehow just provide two disks for smart delivery games, each with a version of the game preloaded?

I don’t expect this to be useful for most games either way, since most games are shipped in such unfinished state lately that the data in the disk is garbage without patching, though.

"Both discs included are required to play Tales of Arise on the Xbox One or the Xbox Series X console".

This part is ambiguous, do you need both discs to play the game on one console?

@SplooshDmg That would be one awesome incentive for doing new game plus!

@BlueOcean probably load one, then the other. To prevent people from just giving away either version

My copy should be coming in soon so I’ll have to see for myself, but this seems a bit confusing.

Sony take note.

You need both discs to install the game. Disc 1, then it will prompt to insert Disc 2 midway through installation, then Disc 1 again to play.

It installed the optimised version automatically, although I need to check if it actually installed both versions of the game.

@PhhhCough Yes maybe, I'm buying digital but I was curious. Kudos to the publisher for being this generous although it's a bit weird to insert two discs as one digital key. It's better than paying extra for a next-gen disc, though.

@PhhhCough I was just thinking the same thing. I've got Series X and a buddy has a 1X. I'm sure they set this up to avoid 1 purchase feeding 2 gamers 😅

@Generik try it out, though, and let us know

I’m a little lost but do the saves carry over? I say this because there two sets of gamerscores. Maybe it was said in the thread but I didn’t catch it…

This is a crap solution, the only thing its good for is cheevo hunting. I assume it'll be two separate save files too, just silly.

Thankfully, there is zero chance that this becomes the main way of doing things going forward, I doubt we'll see it again in more than a handful of titles, MS have already created the solution for this.

Also, the planet isn't gonna thank them for this, and neither will I. Smart Delivery is great and digital distribution is now, not even the future.

That's actually awesome to just include 2 discs. Like how 4K bluray movies include a regular BR disc as well. I'd wish Capcom had done this with RE Village. 😢

Wow, score one for Bamco for consumer friendliness. A 2 disc bundle just so physical players don't need a download on XSX? Amazing!

What "DRM" issue though? There's no DRM issue. There's a download. There's no DRM. It doesn't assign a license key to your account. That was Matrick's X1 idea, not XSX policy.

@John117 You do realize a lot of people have DSL at best, and/or have bandwidth caps that a XSX would churn through in a few hours of a cable connection, right? And with an ISP monopoly that isn't likely to change before we're dead in a lot of places. The complaints about digital are real. (I say this as someone on fiber that's all digital, but I used to be one of those people. They don't deserve to be thrown under the bus.)

@John117 To a point I agree with you, but you really need to understand how hopeless solving that problem here is. There is ONE company that has monopoly control over much of the country's internet. This is the same company that thought opening a Nintendo theme park in April 2021 in Japan was a good idea.

Mighty Google tried to solve the problem by throwing money at it and just building their own fiber network. Then they abandoned it. They discovered how costly it is to run that much fiber and maintain it through so much terrain for such little revenue, but worse, they discovered the sweetheart deals Comcast has with local and municipal governments to ensure competition can't exist. Even Google couldn't break the tightly greased pockets of city councils and county commissions that guarantee Comcast priority for everything, actively block competition, and the fact that Comcast has been known to sabotage competitor lines "by accident" in such scenarios.

Worse, even in premium areas like NYC that have "top tier coverage" it depends which block you're in. Some of it has coverage of gig fiber. Others are stuck on ISDN. The city and state threw money at the telco to roll it out. They took 10 years, abandoned it, spent the money on wireless, paid their fine penalty and moved on. The big telcos keep taking the government money and consumer net income from physical lines, and spending it on their subsidiary to roll out cellular more, letting physical languish. And there's Verizon the remaining big fiber carrier in the coastal elite areas essentially halting most future fiber rollout, saying the future of their internet delivery is in 5G. With bit buckets, bandwidth caps, and "unlimited" being available only on phones. They plan to stop having wired internet at all at least in areas it doesn't already exist (which is most) and repalce it with 5G. The bulk of coverage of which is still.....4G.

With the future for the US internet, honestly Playstation, PC, and Xbox consoles are all dead. The future will be all in XCloud, Now, Stadia, and Luna, streamed to a phone, docked to a TV out. People literally won't have bit buckets to game with downloads and patches. We're going back to the future! Everyone can stream unlimited streaming on their phone and use BT controllers over 4G/5G.

Heck, even Verizon's big E3 presentation was all about 5G streaming. Not a peep about fiber rollouts for console games. Sadly, it's worse than you think. 5G hotspots right now are like 30GB data for only $115! Good luck playing Series X on that sucker.

I have no problem with this, I love when you can download games straight from the disc and not require a network download..

I got the Series X version of this with 2 discs, it's not giving me the option to install the Xbox One version?