Bethesda And Xbox Shut Down Speculation About 'Starfield Coming To PS5' (Again)

MS announced Starfield as an Xbox exclusive. That isn't changing. Why can't some people get that through their head?

People are strange. Or just want to stir the pot.

Hahahaha oh the poor deluded Sony fans, as they haven't got any of there own games for the rest of this year now, they are making up imaginary worlds where they will have Xbox exclusives on the PS5 lol. I'm enjoying the fact Xbox has more multiple exclusives coming out and being developed.

I mean, the way Microsoft seems to be doing things is that they're making all new games like Starfield and Redfall release exclusively on Xbox while letting older titles such as Quake remastered come out on multiple platforms. Seems like a reasonable approach if you ask me.

@The_New_Butler yeah, that is the approach I would take if I didn't have an Xbox. Just assume it's not coming to a console I own. That's a little too rational for the internet to handle, though.

@Carck I bought both at launch and I've played more Sony exclusives than I have Xbox so far.

Hines' is definitely hinting that release platforms will vary by title. I could see a slight chance that franchises that sold best on PS could get releases there in the future but a Series S cost less then a Switch OLED and is 5x better piece of hardware, buy one and support competition.

It’s funny. If it was Sony who’d have bought Bethesda Sony fans would be absolutely fine with all Bethesda games as Playstation exclusives, because we know for a fact that’s what Sony would do, but because MS bought them they expect them to be multiplat and are the bad guys 😂

So far there seems to be 2 possibilities regarding Bethesda:
1. New IPs are Xbox/PC exclusive (e.g. Starfield, Redfall) meanwhile existing franchises prior to the acquisition (e.g. DOOM, Quake, Wolfenstein, Elder Scrolls, Fallout) are multiplatform

2. New games are Xbox/PC exclusive (e.g. Starfield, Redfall, Elder Scrolls 6) meanwhile ports/remasters of games prior to the acquisition continue to be released for newer non-Xbox consoles (e.g. Skyrim, Quake)

Most playstation players have moved past this Bethesda debacle and simply don't care anymore, but Pete hines wording stirred the pot again

@WCB I agree with you, whilst my series s gives me more games to play than my ps5 due to gamepass, in terms of exclusives and "new" games then I've played more on ps5,

Though looking at the rest of the year so far the only exclusives I see from either of them are forza and halo. Unless you count the jrpgs that playstation are getting such as "neptunia x senran kagura"

Tbh looking at what's coming to both ps5 and xbox series this year I would of been more than happy if these consoles took another year before they came out as I do regret buying them, thankfully I have a switch lol

It’s okay at least this gen there will be some balance, make me own an Xbox again! So far demon souls is the only thing that looks Next Gen !!! And it’s a PS3 remake xD

In the year 2080 when elder scrolls 6 hits, sony fans will still be saying the same thing. Jokes aside, Sony made their play for time exclusivity and lost. Xbox is finally getting serious with exclusives, and had it not need for Sony and their rabid all consuming strategy to limit everyone, they might not have, so for that, thank God for competition. Now we get triple A games day one on Gamepass. Halo, Forza, Redfall, Starfield, Fable, Perfect dark, Outerworlds 2, New Vegas 2 (I'm hoping lol) etc. If I were rock hard for PlayStation and I wanted to play these games I would venture outside (I know, it's scary) and purchase myself a series S, and minimum. At least with the new PS5 coming they'll be able to stay toasty this winter as they stare at their calendars rocking back and forth while we all enjoy Halo and Forza I'm kidding.

@FriendlyOctopus While most people may not agree with me, I really hope that Microsoft continues to acquire more studios just so that we can receive their games on Game Pass. Take DoubleFine as an example, I paid €10 for Game Pass to play Psychonauts 2 and that game is absolutely phenomenal. That wouldn't have been possible if Microsoft didn't acquire DoubleFine. People will bring up the argument that they'd rather buy physical games than play rented titles through Game Pass. But let's be reasonable here, there are hundreds of games coming out every year. I don't have the space to keep these hundreds of games in my place, nor is it financially feasible for me to buy all of them at full price. That's why I'm glad we have Game Pass, it's a service that we absolutely need in this day and age.

Nothing to apologize for. Would just ignore those comments like Nintendo does instead of saying sorry & feeling bad

@UltimateOtaku91 Pete Hines was directly asked. The one who was stirring the pot was a PS fanboy.

@Grumblevolcano if I was to bet I would put my money on number 2. The Quake remaster is a small thing that was being done for a couple of years now (before the aquisition). I wouldn't even expect potential remakes (like a morrowind for instance) to be on other systems outside gamepass

@dani3po yes but his answer didn't really clarify or help

These people clutching at straws are just in denial, they are probably still in shock of the buyout and just haven’t processed it yet 😂

@The_New_Butler Don’t forget MS have been throwing their monies around too, only they are not a billionaire company but a trillionaire company 😉

@LtSarge one hundred percent agree =)

@UltimateOtaku91 I thought the whole exclusivity thing was pretty crystal, based on Spencer standing on stage announcing it as such. I respect your point though. =)

@FriendlyOctopus I agree Spencer has always been clear, my comment was about Pete hines as he isn't very good with his wording lol

@UltimateOtaku91 I agree haha, even I read it as "wait, didn't Phil say it's exclusive" . Ah, Twitter. The ultimate water cooler gossip ha

@Fenbops yeah, Sony fans are acting like Bethesda doesn't make good games now (and won't in the future). I think they're getting closer to the acceptance stage of grief.

@Royalblues I made a similar point over on Push Square on an article about Psychonauts 2:

Sony has several Microsoft Studios games release on PlayStation after Microsoft acquisitions: Deathloop, Psychonauts 2, Minecraft Dungeons, Quake Remastered, Ghostwire: Tokyo, Wasteland 3 (MS isn't the publisher here, but still), The Outer Worlds (again, MS isn't the publisher, but still), and a native PS5 version of Doom Eternal.

Plus, it seems like there will still be Bethesda games releasing on PlayStation, it's just not going to be as robust - probably just limited to pre-existing IP's (DOOM, Elder Scrolls, etc.)

You know how many PlayStation Studios games Xbox has? One: MLB The Show. The ONLY reason that Xbox has the game is because the MLB forced Sony to go multiplatform if it wanted to keep developing the series.

Look, say what you will about Microsoft's acquisition strategy; but at the end of the day, I think the company is being quite generous with it's studios producing multiplatform titles. It's certainly not an olive branch neither Nintendo nor Sony would extend if either of them acquired the same studios.

@GamingFan4Lyf they are all corporations that only act in their bottom line's best interest. The idea of the friendly corporation is an act, regardless of if it's Sony, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, etc. They are duty bound to their shareholders. Part of making money is having that "I'm your friend" image.

If they can extract more money by being anti-consumer, they will.

@Bdbrady much like human beings....

@GamingFan4Lyf unfortunately. Though my neighbors still waive when I drive-by, so I'll take that as a win.

Microsoft and Bethesda could clear this up once and for all and just say "starfield will not be releasing on PlayStation" nothing ambiguous about that

After seeing the reaction to Psychonauts 2, I'd have thought Sony fans would be happy Starfield is an exclusive. Wouldn't want those Xbox published games tainting their PS5s. Especially if they don't run as well as on XSX....

Maybe Microsoft should sell these games in a skinned bundle with a Series S, $350 for the bundle and call them the Director's Cut Limited Edition Series. Play them right along side your PS5! (Additional HDMI input on television or receiver required, additional power plug required. Notice: Series S Director's Cut Limited Edition of Starfield does not run at 4k resolution, Xbox Series X console required for 4k rendering. Sold Separately. )

@UltimateOtaku91 In fairness to the confusion, Bethesda often has problems with their wording. "FO76 is not an MMO". "Canvas bag".....

@Bdbrady "Part of making money is having that "I'm your friend" image."

Did nobody tell Jim Ryan this?

@Hobbesyall Nothing "next gen" about Demon's Souls. It doesn't even use any of the RT features. Frame rate boost is about the only thing that "needs" a PS5 for that. Even the level design is...well, right from the PS3. Not knocking the game (beyond not being a Soulsborne fan), but, that's as PS4 as a PS4 game gets. With PS3 level design limitations. But running at 60fps instead of 30. Same for Ratchet. I don't think we've seen anything from Sony that actually uses the PS5's capability other than adding some flourish, other than, ironically, Returnal, the arcade shmup. Doesn't look like 2022 will be that year either, so far. I honestly believe they intended to milk PS4 Pro for years to come, and only had to rush into a new console because MS was. Nothing on their games roadmap we know of suggests they were ready to launch a PS5 until 2023 with maybe a Feb 2022 reveal. Neither was MS before buying Bethesda, really, but they had no choice but to escape the doomed X1.

I don't know what the big deal is. From what I gathered, playstation fanboys didn't want this "BuGGy" game anyways. Why has the narrative changed?

@NEStalgia I would say they were ready as the base PS4 and Xbox one were under powered at launch and were causing issues in development.

I love how people use quake as an example of why games will still hit ps5. Like nightdive studios did the bulk work for quake and were already paid to do a PlayStation. Verison and that's what part of the finish contractual obligations comes from.

I really don’t understand why there is confusion, wording from Some or not. The top people Phil and Sarah have made this very clear.

I get the confusion around unreleased titles because I think Indiana Jones is going to have to be multi platform due to contacts but something they’ve outright said?

I m not a fan of exclusivity , but this is what every console manufacturer is doing.

it would be stupid for ms to give AAA games to sony platform.

Maybe some other (not AAA) ms games would be multiplatform.

Even though cloud gaming all the above could change in the future.

It's called "denial". It'll pass.

For a group of gamers I mainly now see saying how poor Bethesda are....they sure do love to continually delude themselves its coming to ps5

LOL. Just wait till Elder Scrolls VI.
Xbox exclusive, and guessing next Gen only, and Gamepass day one.

@Terrin Both of them needed new hardware for some reasons, but it's clear that neither were in a position to launch an actual console generation in 2020, even without a pandemic - decisions that had to be made years prior weren't made. Even without pandemic delays the whole thing comes across as winging it by the skin of their teeth, though PS seems more caught off-guard. It's a year later and they still haven't finished the OS.

@Hexamex-Tex By the time TESVI launches, we'll be cloud streaming it on our XSX's because we'll be playing whack-a-scalper for XSZ's.

@NEStalgia I heard the os issue was not the best on PlayStation. And hard to say what exactly happened maybe the lead programmer for the os said we got this by xx date and really didn't take into account xx factors.
But I do agree this launch feels odd like neither really have any big exclusives, and most are like wait unt next year but even then. I feel both are light

How many times does this have to be said?

@Terrin Yeah, for both, it's a mix of they launched too soon, plus the pandemic delays making that look even worse. MS I can understand the light launch. No matter what, that was going to be their situation just due to the turnaround from Matrick gutting the studios for a quarter of the last gen, the recent buyouts, and then the fact that most of their acquisitions were already releasing multiplats around the same time, there wasn't much else they could do. But they'd just dropped the X1X to try to remedy that, which didn't live very long. I'm not sure why they needed to rush new hardware out before they were really ready to back it. They were already sitting on the "most powerful" so they didn't really have a race. The hardware is rock-solid, and the OS is iterative, and short some inexcusable roughness to instant resume, solid.

Sony I assume was trying to head-off MS, especially after the X1X launched, but, I remember back at their last E3 in 2018 when it was all low key with little content, just hyping Spiderman, TLoU2, and GoT, getting the last few PS4 games out the door, and the message that they've shifted their focus to PS5, reminiscent of Nintendo's 2016 E3 they said was a "transition year". That was June 2018 they were "shifting their focus to PS5." Over 2 years later they launched the PS5 with basically no next gen games, no roadmap for next gen games, a host of new games that are actually enhanced PS4 games (HFW is stated that PS4 is the lead console), delays on their few big hitters, an overbuilt rushed heatsink they've now stripped down to save money, and a UI that's still not really ready for prime time, missing basic features, almost a year after that. They clearly had a head start on the new console, probably ahead of MS - MS just launched new hardware at that point, with them going all in on their next gen in 2018 vs MS that had just dropped X1X months earlier. How did they end up so behind?

The hardware is nice enough, but they just don't seem like they were in any way prepared internally to change generations yet. Depite 2+ years of having changed their focus to PS5 (except apparently, they really hadn't done that.) MS had it easy, they basically had no prior generation to move on from, just keep moving forward.

If I were to make a guess, I'm going to guess the PS5 they were readying for in 2018 doesn't exist. I'm guessing it was either a much weaker box they planned on moving to, and then cancelled it and raced to build a more powerful box to compete with what MS was doing, or the other way around, it was another $800 PS3 type deal that had crazy specs and a ridiculous price tag, and then seeing MS was pushing lower costs they had to scramble to cobble together something cheaper. The fact that they weren't even sure about the cooling system and overbuilt it just in case indicates they were scrambling to get a completed design, which doesn't sound something that had internal dev kits since 2018. Meanwhile MS was slower getting dev kits out than Sony, indicating they, too, started late.

MS seems like they had their hardware where they wanted it, but their studios just weren't ready to support it when they launched, and never were going to be. Imagine if they hadn't bought Bethesda?

Sony seems like, whatever they thought they were ready for in 2018 isn't where they ended up going, and the whole PS5 launch was cobbled together in motion so they didn't fall behind. And their studios are still focused on PS4 games.

I still think 9th gen is going to be a weird, lost generation, where it doesn't really hit its stride until it's heading out the door, and by then most of it's new content will probably run better on 10th gen hardware right around the corner. Or we'll just learn to embrace streaming everything in the next 7 years.

I’m baffled at all the “he just was too vague” nonsense. The guy simply can’t speak about other unannounced Bethesda projects that might be in like similar to Skyrim Anniversary Ed. He didn’t leave any ambiguity over the exclusivity of Starfield, he just said there would possibly be some more Bethesda products on PS platforms. And he’ll, we also know for a fact FO76 and ESO expansions and DLC will continue to provide content to fans of Bethesda IPs on PlayStation platforms.

But “he muddied the waters” seems to be code for “I refuse to accept I let a troll fanboy account fool me”

@NEStalgia I don’t think the Xbox needed to wait a single day. I got one and am loving it and even if the only exclusive I played in it was The Medium, I can’t imagine spending the last year playing on anything other than my Series X. 60fps, 4k and SSD loading speed are reasons enough.

PS5…. As you said, even the OS was shipped unfinished. Can’t believe they would ship with that memory slot not working, constant sleep mode crashes, obvious last minute implementation of game upgrades, and other OS crashes that gave devs of games like Returnal headaches. I still got one, but that machine felt rushed to avoid giving Microsoft any head start. Mind you, it’s also obvious their “unfinished” was all on the software side. They managed to manufacture an impressive number of units.

Anyways I end up having both, and rather play on either than on XBO or PS4.

Edit: MS had it easy, they basically had no prior generation to move on from, just keep moving forward.

I don’t think that’s true. Despite their distant 3rd place, MS still sold many million consoles, and there was a significant prev gen to move from. If anything, they made sure the migration for those users was as zero friction as possible. Smart delivery, seamless save transfers, shared achievement lists, etc. If anything, the OS some criticized as not looking new was a huge strength. MS didn’t have to recreate their OS and UI, they just upgraded their existing OS and UI (even on prev gen devices.)

These Sony Ponies just can't let it go. If you wanna play Starfield go out and buy a Xbox..

@NEStalgia I haven’t got the foggiest tech inclination but I do own a Xbox1X and Demon Souls looks way better than anything I played on that system! Up until now It’s my favorite game from this new gen! I do apologize if I fail to mention every technology that comes with the game, but the final presentation knocked my socks off ! Weather we’ll see something better in 2022 I have no clue, but let us hope !

I mean he quite clearly said that Starfield was an Xbox exclusive so you'd have to be pretty thick to take that as meaning may come to PS5

@Bmartin001 The Ponies will claim they’ll just play the game on PC and give Xbox and MS the finger, all while most likely playing on a Windows PC with Game Pass. Oh the irony.

@Tharsman Xbox didn't really have a software legacy or a lot of titles in the works for X1 like Sony did with PS4 to worry about though. That's why it was easy for them. Sure the hardware didn't need to wait for its audience, because there was little platform baggage connecting them to the X1, so the new hardware, like the old hardware, was an upgraded "cheap PC" to play your games on, better. Technically that's mostly what the PS5 is now, currently, as well, but that's not what Sony's image is all about, where it kind of is for MS. Sony had to worry about the PS4 legacy and install base, plus all the products in the pipeline for it, so a "transition" from MS basically looks like "upgraded hardware, have fun, in the future there's exclusive games, too", where for Sony they needed a sort of internal realignment that doesn't appear to have happened. The install base of X1 consoles didn't really present a challenge for MS like for Sony because they didn't have that software divide internally, outside Halo, and their stated plan, from the start, until Sony's misdirection made them change it last minute, was to keep supporting both consoles for years with unified releases. Sony was the one pretending they were going to drop PS4 like a hot potato, forced MS to abandon their stated plan, and here we are with a 2022 release schedule of all their major games on PS4...

Sony's hardware is finished unlike the software, but they definitely rushed it. The heatsink is the giveaway. They've stripped it down now, maybe too much (we'll see), but we always knew it was overbuilt, and overkill. It doesn't seem like they'd really been certain what they needed so they threw the kitchen sink at it, at a loss to them, to make sure it wasn't a catastrophe. Seems like it went out the door with insufficient time to test the thermals under different scenarios so they just spent extra to overkill it to make sure it was fine no matter what. Which is a great practice, but certainly not what they wanted. I'm a little worried about that new unit though....over half a pound of heatsink gone sound like it could backfire. Especially for anyone that's going to use the SSD slot. I'm kinda glad I got a launch unit now. Usually I regret buying first, but this time it may actually be a boon.

@MaccaMUFC They'll swear off Game Pass as ruining the industry, then play it on Game Pass so they "don't' give MS much money"

@Hobbesyall There's truly nothing about Demons Souls that couldn't have run on a PS4 Pro or X1X. It doesn't use any of the new GPU features, it's running 1440p 60fps, it's not using any computational improvements of the PS5 because the game is, literally, blow-for-blow, step-for-step identical to the PS3 title by design (that, again, isn't a knock, it's very intentionally doing so so it doesn't break any of the tried and true gameplay, and it's not using any more memory or anything for level design other than the improved geometry because the levels are 1:1 identical to the PS3 game (again, by design.) They even ported/re-used PS3 AI code to make sure it was 100% true to the original (THAT probably takes some PS5 power if it's running PS3 code written for Cell, purely for emulation. )

Quite literally the only thing about PS5 other than maybe an emulator for some PS3 code that it's using is being able to do it at 1440p@60fps where a PS4 Pro may have only done 30fps and a base PS4 would have had to drop resolution maybe to 720p. So it "matters", but if it were a PS4 release and a frame unlock and res boost on PS5, it would be the same.

If it looks so great, that's down to quality art design from Blue Point, not machine horsepower. R&C's graphics push the GPU a lot more, though it's just that, it's a PS4 game design with a lot of graphic enhancements. And HFW is literally a PS4 game entirely. So, for now, Returnal still remains the only "real" PS5 game. I'm not a fan of it at its price point. It's an "indie scope game given a budget for flourish", but it probably would have been hard to pull off on old hardware. Realistically GT7 and GoW remain the only known pending games that could end up showing off the hardware for real. Assuming GoW isn't also a PS4 game.... I'm betting it is.

Microsoft made it clear ages ago.

Pete Hines messes his wording up. Some fans pick up on it. Sites decide hey its a slow news day lets post about it to get some clicks going.

Nothing to see here. Lol.

@S1ayeR74 Does it? Right now the PS5 has more 1st party PS5 only games then Series S/X has 1st party only S/X games with Flight Sim being the only one. This year has seen a few exclusives as well and next month even has one and then you have a packed next year what with Horizon and God of War. Xbox's big games this holiday is the same as always in Halo and Forza and from the sounds of things Halo's MP is going to be a P2P monetized to hell version.

@WallyWest Yes it does, if you count them all up the Xbox Series has more exclusive titles announced as coming out or in development then the PS5 has.

@WallyWest Oh and one more thing,
Halo will also be offering a full deep campaign at launch with CoOp play coming later, and it's MP will be just fine and not pay to win or stuffed full of IAP's like your suggesting. So try again at belittling Xbox games to attempt to make Sony look better. Forza Horizon looks epic. All say and date on Game Pass too!!

@S1ayeR74 and when are they coming? Sony have learnt that lesson and have tried to avoid announcing games what 3 years plus away. Xbox has a good library coming up but its going to be years before we see them, i wouldn't be shocked if Starfield is a 2023 title. Outside of the announced stuff we don't know exactly what Sony has planned but we do know they have stuff planned like Spider-Man 2 and you also have stuff like FF16 and that other SE exclusive. MS shot their load at E3 while Sony are keeping it loaded for now.

@S1ayeR74 MS games are full of MTX, in fact they are near EA levels and Halo's MP the main draw is clearly F2P so they can go even harder on it.

Also i own all 3 consoles in PS5, Series S and Switch. Unlike some i don't have loyalty to a corporation, i'm long past those days. When you grow up and can afford more then one console you will understand.

@NEStalgia I thank you for the details, but from an outsider perspective it still looks freakin amazing! It could be ps1 tech for all I care it looks and plays amazing and no better looking has come out yet on this new gen! Fingers crossed for elden ring or starfield :3

@Hobbesyall haha, well, that's what matters. I think it's a case of what the Nintendo fans always say about how art style is more important than graphics. A "last gen" game can look as good or better than current gen of it's got the right art direction!

@WallyWest I'm confused exactly why you believe Halo Infinite to be free to play? Because it isn't and that puts a large flaw in your ridiculous argument. Thanks for your life history on your console ownership as well, doesn't change anything.

@WallyWest 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 So when is the next God Of War coming then? Oh and hmm I do believe Horizon 2 was announced a year before its release or was it more? Sony is silent because they haven't got anything. Microsoft has churned out lots of games already will continue to do so and will do next year and the year after. It has games fact, Sony hasn't got anywhere near the same, you are trying to move the goalposts so your argument doesn't look as ridiculously fanboyism as it actually is.

Wat i want to know is if Steam deck can run a game like this.

I’m glad MS bought Bethesda, means i’ll get all new games on Gamepass. I really don’t think PS only gamers are that fussed. Bethesda are decent at best. Nothing the y have ever made comes close to the AAA PS exclusives like TLOU 1 n 2, Uncharted, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, etc. The only video game publisher that comes close to Publishers such as Naughty Dog are Rockstar an i can’t see MS getting them.

@S1ayeR74 You do realize Halo Infinite MP is F2P right? Its only the campaign what costs money providing you don't use Gamepass for it.

@S1ayeR74 Horizon is out in Feb next year and chances are God of War is as well.

Tell me how many Series S/X/PC only 1st party games has MS released so far because i can only count Flight Sim, in fact outside of Indies what 1st party games has come out so far this year?

Damn you really are a fanboy aren't you? Horizon, God of War, Spider-Man 2, FF16, that other Square Enix game, GT7, Kena, Deathloop (timed for at least a year), TLoU Remake (not confirmed but might as well be) and that's just off the top of my head.

Sony have nothing? Well they have the sales as the PS5 is greatly outselling Series S/X so i'm pretty sure Sony will want to continue releasing games for it especially for new franchises they started last gen like Horizon and Ghost.

Either way i win though as it doesn't matter, i can be hyped for Starfield for Xbox and God of War for my PS5.

@WallyWest Is it? Well that's great value then as millions love the multiplayer. I'm sure it'll be a huge success.

@WallyWest I'm not a fanboy, I just don't buy BS like what your spouting, and you proved my point exactly, your hypocritical to the max because you literally have NO idea when the next God Of War is out yet Sony announced it last friggin year, but according to you, typical hypocritical Sony fan, it's great when Sony do that but it's bad and anti consumer and tragic when Microsoft do the exact same thing. Give me a break your the only fanboy round here mate.
You don't even know the huge game released exclusively on Xbox and PC last week..
You may win in your 'claim' if having all the consoles but you lost your own argument with your own hypocrisy.

@S1ayeR74 Not hypocrisy at all, most of the the big games MS shown at E3 this year will be lucky to hit Xbox next year while GoW is all but certain to hit next year especially as it was originally announced for this year. Tell when is Hellblade 2 out? The Outer Wilds 2? Exactly.

You keep saying MS have been releasing tons of games this year but fail to say what. Its funny you call me a fanboy when on Pushsquare today i've been criticizing Sony for how they're releasing Horizon and praised MS on how they're doing it for Halo and Forza.

@WallyWest You are still being hypocritical, and your postings on other sites has little bearing in this argument. Again your praising Sony and twisting it so they look great for doing the exact same thing you accuse Microsoft as being bad for doing.
Sony has announced GOW and it's a 'FACT' you literally have 'NO' concrete idea of when it will launch. It could have been announced years before launch.
Which is 'EXACTLY' what you are accusing Microsoft of doing. But you will fail to see your hypocrisy and defend Sony no matter what, I suggest you go back to Push Square and stay there! Because you aren't able to have a fair consistent argument to make it seems.

@S1ayeR74 Something tells me you're one of those console loyalty scrubs who can't criticize the Corp they have giving their loyalty too. End of the day i go by facts, logic and context and its how my thoughts are based.

Again outside of Flight Sim what big 1st party games has MS released on Xbox S/X this year? You keep ignoring the question.

Ended up biting the bullet (and also getting a bit of luck) and bought a Series X, so i'm not too concerned now that this isn't coming to the PS5. I bought a Series S to play anything that wasn't PS5 bound, but a game like Starfield would be massively limited on the Series S compared to the X. Thought that i'd probably save money in the long run by getting an X now and selling the S while it's still worth £200+ second hand, than waiting a year and getting less.