Talking Point: How Many Of Bethesda's Future Games Will Be Xbox Exclusives?

I said all of them and full exclusives..

But if they do a next gen of say fallout 76 or eso then yes that is what I believe when phil said case by case basis..
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Wow what hard subject. What makes me think the all titles won’t be completely exclusive that Bethesda will still be a a publishing arm. And I think that there is a world difference between Nintendo vs PlayStation. Also, media people have mentioned that Sony may have had some more deals with Bethesda that are “unannounced” and preexisting. I guess we wait and see.

I can see Microsoft putting a handful of their exclusives on Switch and a few on PS4/5, but that's really it.

Not too bothered as il have a ps5, switch and gamepass on my phone so I can play whatever they decide to do

I think they should all be permanent exclusive but I don’t think Microsoft is going to do that.

Even sony has tried to secure time exclusivity deal for starfield. So yeah, i want all of them to become xbox exclusives so they can compete with Sony first party output.
Edit : wait, i think a month ago imran khan from kinda funny said that a big (very xbox) game will become exclusive on PS5. Is that Starfield? or another game?

I don't think you spend $7.4bn to put the majority of games out on other platforms - regardless of how much control Bethesda has. It makes sense for games like Elder Scrolls Online or Fallout 76 to remain and still get the same content - like Minecraft.

However, we will see what transpires. The market, fans and Press have constantly asked about exclusives and now MS has the studio's to deliver...

I think most of the games will be Exclusive to Xbox and PC.. You don't spend 7.5 billion dollars to give Sony a 30% cut on every game you sell..

Xbox, home of Doom. Sounds great.

@Medic_Alert Yeah I agree, and when people talk about the loss of the Sony install base, they forget Gamepass is on your phone and your PC. I mean a game like TES 6 would literally be everywhere that Gamepass is. Is it really a loss then? At this point are we really only talking about a few hold outs?

@Medic_Alert

I completely agree.

@Sylcolene

Starfield is not going to be a PS5 exclusive. That makes zero sense. Lol.

@KelticDevil no, i mean it will happen only if sony can secured timed-exclusivity deal for starfield.
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sony-was-reportedly-in-talks-to-sign-starfield-before-xboxs-bethesda-buyout/

I think they will leave ESO & Fallout 76 multi platform. The rest are going to be exclusives.

I & others have said it many times..... you don’t spend $7.5 billion to help Sony out by putting the games on PS5 & giving Sony 30% of the profits. That’s ridiculous.

The only ones questioning this are Sony fanboys who are living in a fantasy land & who are all upset because they can’t play the games.

If they don’t like it.....get an Xbox, play on PC, play on your phone/tablet. Of course, there are the PS fanboys that say “Bethesda’s games suck anyways!!”, so why should they care? 🙄😂

And the majority of upcoming Bethesda’s games probably won’t work on the Switch because of the weak hardware. So I doubt the Switch will be supported much going forward even if Microsoft & Nintendo play nice.

@Sylcolene

Microsoft has been promoting Starfield in the list of games after buying Bethesda. So that rumor is either false or Sony tried & it didn’t work.

Heck it may have even triggered Microsoft to do this purchase. But I think Microsoft was more worried about one of Google, Amazon or Tencent buying Bethesda. Sony doesn’t have the $ to get involved in all of this. They like to waste their $ on timed exclusives.

@KelticDevil I was thinking more in the Vein of Doom64, less modern games for Switch content.

He Sony do you want elder scrolls 6? Then give us Final Fantasy XVI...

@mousieone

Yea that would make sense. 👍🏻

@MarzoriuM

Um no. They can keep FFXVI & we’ll keep Elder Scrolls.

FFXVI is only a timed exclusive anyways. Let Sony waste their $ on that crap.

@KelticDevil Is it timed? Ah I didn’t know that. I agree.

@marzorium

It hasn't been confirmed but many actual insiders and anaylsts not just youtubers and random people yelling on tweeter confirmed it is 6 months full exclusive then goes to pc and 12 month console exclusive then can go to xbox/other consoles

None of them will be released for PS5 except the ones that Sony has a contract for, Deathloop and Ghost Wire Tokyo. Microsoft don't need the PS5 one-time purchases but persuade people to subscribe to Game Pass. They haven't spent $7.5b to sell games on PS5. They need Game Pass to be crazy value, to have as many people subscribed as possible and to make Xbox the best possible gaming ecosystem and yes, that includes exclusives. Acquiring ZeniMax for publishing multiplatform games don't make any sense for Microsoft.

Watch this.

https://youtu.be/AzkqeWAe86Y

Maybe stuff like Elder Scrolls and Fallout they’ll make a timed exclusive. But I just can’t see MS releasing new DOOM or Wolfenstein games for PS

It was leaked by Square Enix after Sony's show that Sony paid Square Enix for 6 months exclusivity against PC and 12 months exclusivity against Xbox. They could have invested those millions in games!

Remember a few months ago that there were reports about Sony making sure that PS5 has a lot of big exclusives on PS5 not made by first but third parties, buying exclusivity deals? One of them was likely Starfield.

"Sony was reportedly in talks to sign Bethesda’s Starfield as a PS5 exclusive, before its agreed sale to platform rival Xbox this week"

Karma?

Buying Bethesda for 7.5 billion and still giving their games to Sony would be the epitome of stupidity. Why buy them in such a case?

And I say this as a PS fanboy.

None. They'll all be on PC too. And almost certainly Playstation.

@MarzoriuM

Yea it has the same deal as FFVII remake.

@Nickolaidas And you are right LOL.

@BlueOcean

It is funny seeing all the Ponies complain about Xbox buying Bethesda, but if Sony would have paid for Starfield to be exclusive, those same Ponies would be doing backflips & worshipping that buffoon Jim Ryan.

Like you said.....karma is a $&!?@. 😂

If MS were smart, they'd lock down all of Bethesda's properties for Xbox. Exclusives help consoles and enough people only game on console for it not to matter that you can get Bethesda games on PC as well as Xbox. I know everyone is talking about ecosystems, and the best way to do that is keep properties tied to your ecosystem. MS 100% should make every Bethesda game exclusive to Xbox, to the maximum extent practicable.

Edit: I do think they will keep all Bethesda games exclusive and it honestly doesn't bother me. Yeah, I game on Nintendo devices but this gives me another system with awesome exclusives. That sits well with me, tbh.

@KelticDevil that's the truth isn't it about the timed exclusives. Instead of sending the cash to MAKE more great games you're spending it on allowing less people to play an existing game that's already being made by a 3rd party...that's so dumb. Sony is going to get a really strong dose of its own medicine and depending how the big boys play they might just become a games publisher down the line if they don't adapt. No where near the adult table of Amazon, Google, MS and the large Chinese firm's, they would be on a booster seat still?

I don't know what people are talking about, sincerely.

This "case by case" phrase was there only to refer to those two games that already are under contract for the PS5 launch.

Of course, everything new (and I mean NEW, not a DLC for a previous game) will only be avalaible on Xbox AND PC ! (don't forget that ! To bring everything on PC day one is, in a way, a form of multiplatform.)

So, Starfield and ES VI on PS5 ? Yeah, sure, you can dream...

@Bobobiwan It is just that PS fanbase is still not coming to terms with the fact that they are no longer the only big guy in the scene and how they thought Microsoft will remain stuck with only their core 3 of Gears,Halo,Forza. for eternity.

I have friends who are PS fans and now they consoling themselves with the argument that "yes but Sony exclusives have proven themselves in the past while Microsoft hasn't" and I mean they have some truth in that saying. But still...

If Elder Scrolls 6 is an Xbox Series X/S exclusive then that will be a huge coup for Microsoft against Sony.

@FraserG What is your opinion if you want to say it?

No one should hold any hopes of any game future game, other than Deathloop and Ghost Wire Tokio, will come to PlayStation. We will see expansions for Elder Scrolls Online and Fallout 76, that will be it.

Bethesda being a semi-independetnt publusher gives Microsoft yet one more arm to scout for new third party titles to publish, as well as coordinate those service game expansions.

@BrilliantBill True, Sony exclusives can be quite often considered as real masterpieces. And I mean it.

But you know what game definitly made me direct my choice to Series X ? Just a hint : it's the one you chose for your avatar.

Seriously, I only discovered this absolute gem three or four months ago. I had it on physical, on my backlog, for quite some time. And one day, I just randomly chose to start this game and not another.

I played it on Xbox One X, headset on my ears. And it was such a shock, to me. I cannot even find the words to express how that particular game made me feel.

So Hellblade 2 ? For me, it's a system seller. As in : this is the one that really made me consider the Series X over the PS5.

Gamepass and All Acess did the rest.

Hellblade 2... Even if it comes only in 2022, I don't care. This game, those guys at Ninja Theory, with the budget of Microsoft behind them.

It's gonna be huge. Really, really huge.

@Bobobiwan Yes true. a story-focused game by Ninja Theory with the type of money that God of War/Uncharted gets = Serious system seller

@Krzzystuff

Exactly!

Microsoft want subscribers to their services. The best way to do that is have games that you can only play on Xbox.

That's why the PS4 smashed Xbox One out of the park in comparative sales.

That's why Switch beat Xbox One lifetime sales within a couple of years.

People buy systems or sign up to subscriptions because of the exclusives.

If Microsoft do anything other than make games exclusive to Xbox moving forward, then they're very foolish.

@Bobobiwan I hate having these kinds of dileemas myself. I want the Demon's Souls remake (I fell in love with the original on my PS3) and I CANNOT imagine myself not owning a PS system.

I also love Elder Scrolls (2000 hours on Skyrim and I'm still not done) and Doom, so I'm definitely investing on a PC and X Series X as well.

Hell, if the Switch Pro turns out to be a thing, I'm getting that, too.

People have to realise people don't buy consoles because it has most power or the best graphics, they buy it for the games and the exclusive games and thats why nintendo and Sony have dominated the market up until now as they have always had the best exclusives.

Now its Microsofts turn to join them with the potential 1st party games they will have and the promising 1st party games they have already in the making.

I don't think this will make that much less people buy the ps5/switch/switch pro, it will instead make more people buy an xbox series X aswell as their other consoles or just make people get gamepass on their pc/mobile

Most Bethesda games will be on multiple consoles. At least the big Bethesda Game Studios ones (Starfield, Elder Scrolls, Fallout) will be. That's because there are already fans in both Xbox and Playstation communities. They can sell copies on both consoles and Game Pass will still be attractive for offering the games (plus DLC) cheaper, bundled with other games. Xbox will sweeten the pot with Xbox-exclusive add-ons or features.

Probably, games from the smaller Bethesda studios will sometimes be exclusive. But Xbox doesn't lose money by letting PS5 gamers play Elder Scrolls 6.

@hallower1980 i really hope you're just trolling and don't believe this. These are Microsoft studios now and just like you won't see Halo on PlayStation you won't see anything from the new Microsoft studios. If Sony allows gamepass on it then yeah... they will come to the PlayStation...but only as part of gamepass.

Also how much does Sony make? Heard they made $6B across all of Sony last year...MS just paid $7.5B in CA$H! They don't need Sony for anything financial, Sony is afterall another satisfied customer of Azure.

Xbox is more than just the console now. Xbox means Xbox consoles, PC, and mobile thru streaming. By that definition, they'll be on Xbox, meaning they'll be available basically anywhere that isn't named Playstation.

I’m not sure when I last played anything by Bethesda, probably Dishonored back when it released, I know I haven’t played anything on current gen systems because I would still own the disc

I think there's a good chance that anything that was already in development before the sale (Like Starfield, the next Elder Scrolls and possibly the next Fallout if that's in development.) could come to PS5, but after that who knows? It does seem unlikely that Microsoft would pay all that money not to keep any future games from Bethesda, ID and etc. exclusive. Microsoft may have agreed to let Bethesda still develop multiplatform as part of the deal, with it being less about acquiring console exclusives than is securing killer content for Game Pass. At any rate, it's a safe bet that any new IPs that come along from them going forward will probably be Xbox exclusive except in cases where deals were already in place, as with the time PS5 exclusivity for Deathloop.

It'll be a few years before something like the Elder Scrolls VI or a true Fallout game, so I suppose it really depends upon what the landscape looks like then. Such as how successful Series X is and Gamepass subscriber numbers as let's face it Microsoft is a business first and foremost and aren't going to be paying so much for a company only to potentially halve its player base and lower its value

@graysoncharles yes but the will also be giving Sony 30% of every sale. MS isn't looking to make back the 7.5B as quickly as possible, they are looking to get as many people subscribed to gamepass as possible and you don't do that by letting people play your games outside your ecosystem. Their are multiple interviews, articles and videos by the credible sources that state this. I just feel people aren't listening to fact and reason and believing somehow that they need Sony to make this work.

@carlos82 the console market has been around 200M the past few generations...their are 3B mobile users...they aren't looking at loosing Sony player's, they want the mobile user's. 110M PS4 owners and let's say 20M play Bethesda games...it's not as big an impact as people make it out to be. Besides...they can just buy a cheap series S to play these games in gamepass, play it on PC or play it on their phone. If Sony was the purchaser it wouldn't even be a discussion that these we're all going to be exclusive, don't know why it is now when MS is the bigger company as well. If Google or Amazon bought them they would be a exclusive, why do people expect MS to be the only ones that need to do it differently?

@Krzzystuff well when the head of Xbox himself hasn't committed to them being exclusives then its fair to say its up for debate. This 3 billion mobile users is a nonsense for such a discussion and we all know it. Somehow these people who have never had any interest in buying a device to play these types of games are now expected to pay a subscription to do such a thing? Not a chance because most don't even want to play such games. I fully expect the majority of these games to be exclusive to Xbox but for the bigger games I'm not so sure, mainly because Xbox are less bothered about hardware sales than Sony and more about reaching as many consumers as possible, so even if it sells on the PS5 its still Microsoft who makes a profit. Look at Minecraft or to a much lesser degree the Ori games going to Switch

@carlos82 you're right we don't know and we clearly have different views. Let's see how it plays out. End of day i have an X pre-ordered so it's not effecting me either way.

Hope you and everyone else has a great day today.

i like how someone is always like, "I have every system and a 80 inch TV and 3 sound bars and two Gaming PCs and a VR headset and every game ever, so this doesn't affect me at all...."

like, put your d*ck away lol

Think of how other streaming subscriptions work. Sure, Netflix and Amazon have exclusive TV shows. But they also attract many people who prefer getting some of the movies and shows they want to watch every month to buying those movies and shows outright elsewhere.

Most Netflix content is available to purchase on Vudu, Amazon, or on DVD. But Netflix is still the video subscription king because people like having so many options for what to watch next. Likewise, Game Pass can attract gamers who want a whole bunch of games to choose from — including major titles — rather than only buying a big game occasionally.

Since mobile gaming was mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft took another shot at that by making mobile games a third branch of Game Pass Ultimate. What if that sub also got you a lot of dedicated phone and tablet games?

I'm probably making a big mistake by commenting on here as someone who primarily choses Nintendo and Sony as my platforms, but I really don't get all the excitement from this acquisition. Xbox owners were all going to get to play these games from Zenimax anyway, so what is there to celebrate? Nothing has changed for the Xbox playerbase as far as I can tell.

For the record, I will miss Doom and anything Shinji Mikami makes, but Bethesda hasn't really made anything that interests me for coming on ten years now so it's not really a big loss for me personally. Hopefully Doom will continue to come to Nintendo platforms in the future.