Phil Spencer: We'll Bring Many More Third-Party Games To Xbox Game Pass

Cool. I kinda hope they manage to get every title in PSNow that is not in GP, if Sony managed to get them in, maybe GP can too.

Not sure how many are worth it but last I checked they have the first two Darksiders. In fact... THQ been so prolific that it would be awesome if they could get all their back catalog (even if we got anything 2 years or older, that would still be a big addition.)

Just bring back the old partnership with Call Of Duty. 🙏

The current Game Pass is pretty loaded up with third-party titles already - though I am guess Microsoft wants more current third-party games rather than older/indie titles.

I have been quite satisfied with Game Pass selection of games. Games With Gold titles haven't been as good, but I still claim them anyways.

Would love to see third party titles say the new assassins creed etc, come to game pass on day of release. That would be something very special.

That's music to my ears Phil, it really is... 😀

Game Pass is great value. I just checked PlayStation Now on PS4 and it's more rubbish than I remember. The Last of Us is the PS3 streaming version, the PS4 definitive edition is not available. Of course, the sequel is not included. God of War (2018) is not available either, I think it was some time ago because I saw an advertisement with it but now it's not part of the subscription. Only some and old first-party games are included in PlayStation Now. The third-party games offer includes some games available on Game Pass and lots of indies. It's good that now you can download the PS4 games but the selection of games is very disappointing.

In Phil I trust.

@BlueOcean

Yea PS Now has been a joke ever since it launched years ago. Even when I had a PS3, I didn’t sign up for that trash.

@BlueOcean sometimes a game like God of war becomes available for 20 days then it's gone.
I think Control and Spiderman were also there for a short time.

Probably the key focus with some of the key first party titles being a year or two out.

Get the third parties in to try and make the new console more appealing for a launch purchase 👍🏻

At this point, its a smart strategy and should be full focus.

@KelticDevil sooo, you’re saying its trash yet haven’t used it since presumably 2013/2014?

Strange.

Cyberpunk, and Dying Light 2 and Beyond Good and Evil 2 (if it ever gets released), would be fantastic additions , although I fear a lot of big third parties will be bought PlayStation exclusives in some form or another.

@Jacko11

Not strange. See.....it was trash back in 2013/2014 AND it’s trash now.

And I’ve actually never “used” it because I can read. You see I can read prices, game titles, policies, etc. So as a consumer, I can avoid trash before paying for it. What a concept!!!!

Hope that clears it up for you. 👍🏻

@Jacko11 wouldn't waste your breath on him biggest xbox fan boy on this site, ps now has got better since then but tbh the big games only last 3 months (not 20 days like some idiots like to think) so your kinda rushed to complete them. I think they need to add first party games permanently and bring it out on android/ios for it to compete with game pass

@S1ayeR74 I don't think the big third party titles would come to game pass or playstation now straight away as they would be losing out on so much money especially as those big third party games usually sell 8+ million copies

@KelticDevil Didn’t PSN use to get hacked everytime? It’s a godforsaken unpromising service. Anyways subscription services are not profitable in short run but only trillion$ companies like Microsoft can get away with it, even having the financial back to put big third parties like CoD, GTA etc. Sometimes people should be grateful and acknowledge the fact that Microsoft didn’t make 2B$ Minecraft as exclusive, instead they pushed for cross-play.

I am happy with Game Pass the way it is now. As long as the first party games go in there day 1 & it has a great mix of 3rd party games......I am 👍🏻

But I love that Phil & his team are not resting on their laurels.

@Z3u5000

Yea I had a PS3 when the PSN got hacked. Plus PSN just sucked as a service compared to Xbox Live. It was so much slower. I left the 360 during the awful Mattrick years, but was spoiled from my time on Xbox since the OG Xbox about this stuff.

I’m not sure what PSN is like now because I have no interest in a PS4.

@playstation_king the rumor is that instead of buying exclusives, Microsoft used that money picked up a few day one Gamepass titles. Which to be fair would probably cost the same as a year exclusivity since the companies wouldn’t be losing sales on PlayStation. Granted it’s just a rumor and hearsay.

@BlueOcean I don't think Sony is doing PS Now because they want to, but because investors want them to. Sort of like Nintendo and mobile, where they're basically half-assing it and making some money from it. Although, it seems like Sony is half-assing it a lot better because people hardly ever talk about PS Now. Game Pass is something that comes up almost daily and Nintendo on mobile is also something everyone talks about often.

Gamepass just isn't for me, I prefer to own my games while playing them..

Persona 5, and i would faint.

(Hey, it worked with Dragon Quest 11 lol).

@Bmartin001 I'm kind of in the same boat. That and users don't have control over the library of games we can play. It's a nice rental service, but I don't see it as much more than that.

This is pretty cool, GP seems like a good service for people who don't mind renting games for a while. Them and people who want to try a game that they otherwise wouldn't have played.

@IronMan30

I am not “renting” 1st party titles, which there a lot of that I love playing. 1st party stays on there for good.

Game Pass is great. I feel like Microsoft is releasing a lot of first party content lately which is the real value behind game pass as they stay on there forever. More third party content would be nice. My only wish is that they would let you know the estimated date that it will be taken off of game pass. That way I don't even bother with stuff if it is being taken down in the next 2-3 months.

@KelticDevil it's "renting" insofar as you only have access (without purchasing the game) as long as you're a subscriber. I didn't mean that as an insult to the service, it is a very good value.

@IronMan30

Ok, cool. 👍🏻

The service is good as it is, and keeping the first party offerings on adds the real value..
I counted around 240 titles on the service currently, that's a massive pool of games to play from even if you didn't actually buy any actual games going forwards there should always be someting to play...
While concentrating on some big third party offerings will only further add further value to the service...

@playstation_king oh don’t worry I know. Him and two others i’m well acquainted with but just like to see how they respond to reasonable questions and comments.

Often as silly and biased as they could possibly be

Here's the thing: Sony is 100% going to create their own version of Game Pass, some sort of streaming service. it's going to happen. Sony is also, as we know, starting to put their games on PC. you will eventually see them go there MUCH sooner in the time after their release on console. Microsoft's current strategy is basically where things are going. Sony fans will think it's a great idea when it comes, so no worries lol

@armondo36

Very true! Lol!

@armondo36 Yep, they're not mocking the "Xbox exclusive" term as much as before since PS games are playable on PC via PlayStation Now and direct sale. They change their mind as soon as Sony's stockholders do. It's like power, it was the most important thing when PS4 launched.

@BlueOcean within a year, TOPS, Sony will announce a revamped PS Now that is very much like Game Pass. Suddenly it will be the best idea ever lol

@armondo36 Where have their brains gone? 🙄

@armondo36 playstation now (sonys streaming service) launched 2014

Gamepass launched 2017

People seem to forget playstation now launched 3 years before gamepass, yes xbox took that idea and made it better.
But now if sony took some of Microsofts ideas and made playstation now better then we wouldn't hear the end of how playstation copied xbox lol

@playstation_king it really doesn't matter who "copied" who. the point is i see tons of people act like Game Pass is a bad idea, but when Sony makes PS Now into a similar service (i think they're going to fill it with games from their HUGE back-catalog, moreso than anything), it will suddenly be a good idea lol

@Justifier how is game pass not a streaming service? You stream the games over the Internet, but both gamepass and playstation now allow you to download the games to the console aswell, so what's makes game pass different? Dont get me wrong gamepass is better as it's more stable and available on android now and has first party games day one, but other than that it's the same as playstation now

@armondo36 personally I think gamepass/ps now is a great idea for those who dont own a console and stream games on their pc or mobile but I also think it's taking away the reason to buy a console and is slowly building towards a no console and digital future which I think some people are against

@Justifier ok my bad, so the Xcloud streams the games that are in the game pass? If so then playstation now is both Xcloud and gamepass combined, xbox should just call them both under one name

Playstation now combines both gamepass and Xcloud on one service and has been doing so since 2014 way before xbox considered doing a gamepass subscription. Ps now has slowly been getting better and includes over 800 games which is more than gamepass has to offer and has better 3rd party games, and offers its first party games for 3 months every now and then, which xbox add their 1st party games straight away due the low physical sales figures this makes sense compared the the figures sonys first party games generate so it makes no sense for sony to include them on playstation now day one as the developers would lose out on money.

Thses are some of the games they have added recently

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-now/games/

And its gotten a lot better since it first launched and is more stable than it was before, all sony needs now is to come to mobile which I'm sure it will in 2021

@playstation_king MS first party titles are selling phenomenally well on PC and with Gamepass being a thing. Grounded isn’t even out of early Access and Microsoft Flight Sim is dominating. Minecraft is always on the sales charts somewhere.

The real reason MS can afford to put them on GP day one is because the company can afford a loss on the Xbox side because the company is so profitable everywhere else.

Sony can’t to because PS software sales carries the lionshare of profits for that company. Sony needs MS to be successful because they aren’t in position to experiment with their money maker.

To all, we really arguing about these two services? o.O Look GP is better because First Party titles are there day 1 forever and downable. However, PSNow has fixed a lot of its issues and even has downloading of some PS4 games (I think)and a price reduction. Again, Sony’s just not in a position to weaponize yet. They need the market to get used to the idea through what MS is doing.

@mousieone I can see where you are coming from but those xbox games you mentioined aren't physical sellers, they are doing well in terms of number of people who have downloaded them via gamepass but that's not the same as selling in retail for £30-£40 a game which sonys games do very well so surely that would be more profitable for sonys first party developers than via being on subscription day one?

The only Minecraft thats dominated the charts this year has been the Nintendo switch edition.

Also every ps4 game on playstation now can be downloaded

@playstation_king Actually I was looking at Steam Charts and Switch, where you have to pay for them not GP. Grounded on Steam is a best seller despite having a GP version. As is Microsoft flight sim. At one point their games occupied 4 of the top seller spots for Steam. Now I’m not sure where you are going with Physical vs Digital. I apologize.

@BlueOcean @armondo36

As we have said, I guarantee Sony is watching how Microsoft is making a killing selling their games on PC, as well as Xbox. It’s only a matter of time before Sony does the same. They want to make $, right?

And the only people who will complain will be PlayStation fanboys who still live in the 90’s & are constantly going on message boards & comment sections bragging about how many consoles Sony sells even though they don’t get any of Sony’s money. 😂😁 I don’t get the hate & resistance to Game Pass & Microsoft’s way of doing things.

I’m glad PC gamers get a chance to enjoy the Halo MCC now, for example. It doesn’t effect me one bit as an Xbox fan. Cheers 🍻 to everyone enjoying games. 👍🏻

@playstation_king The third-party games on PlayStation Now aren't any better than those on Game Pass, I know because I checked both services today. The first-party games selection available on PlayStation Now is depressing, worse each time I check.

Microsoft's games are selling very well, not just on PC but on Xbox and some of them are on the multiplatform charts in spite of the more reduced market share. Japan is dominated by Nintendo at the moment but elsewhere Microsoft is being successful, not just with Game Pass but with software sales.

@KelticDevil For Microsoft being successful on PC is good but for us console players is good too, more Xbox Game Studios, more and better games for everyone 😁.

Microsoft will soon want PS now to start performing better. Sony are paying to use Microsofts cloud. The more VMs, storage and network bandwidth Sony need the more they have to pay Microsoft. 😂

@Nexozi

I forget about that part. Sony is paying Microsoft to use their servers. I wonder if Phil just hangs a Sony check on his wall every time they have to pay up? And just laughs. 😂

It's sad that Game Pass continues to feel like a distraction from Xbox's problems rather than just a very good concept.

@Grumblevolcano

Maybe to you. And it’s actually a “great” concept, not a “good” one, by the way.

And, as an Xbox player, I haven’t encountered any problems in a long time. So we are good. Thanks! 👍🏻

@BlueOcean third party games sell 3-1 on playstation vs xbox so how are they successful outside of Japan? Ps4 has 109 million sales compared to xbox ones 41 million that's a 68 million difference!!

In Europe alone the ps4 has sold 257 million games compared to xbox ones 81 million so once again you call that successful?

With these kinds of figures sony doesn't need its own version of gamepass as it's generated so much money more than a subscription service could ever bring them.

If gamepass was just on the Xbox console then it would of been a failure but is saved by the fact its also on pc which is probably generating most of its user base at the moment. And now it's coming to android which xbox desperately needed to up its user base and will most likely include android users in its stats going forward to hide the poor xbox series X sales

As a console Microsoft and the xbox brand are close to dying and will soon be like stadia and purely a streaming/subscription service which isn't entirely a bad thing, while Sony and Nintendo run the console market

That is what I like to hear Phil ol' buddy! As a Game Pass subscriber who loves the service, I couldn't be more pleased!

@armondo36 You got that supremely correct!

So on an article about more third party games coming to GP theres more comments about slagging off PS Now vs GP and hardly any about the third party games coming 🤣

... really people? Lol.

Anyone want to have a stab and get the ball rolling on what titles may be coming?

@playstation_king Everybody is doomed but mighty Sony.

I reckon they'll get Cyberpunk on it day one. Needs to happen

@J0rspe That would be gigantic.

@BlueOcean with the whole Halo fiasco they need something huge like that. It would definitely sell subs and beef up launch day

@J0rspe Especially knowing that Sony is paying for timed-exclusive third-party content, it would be a great counter move.

@playstation_king I’m not entirely certain Sony can stay in the console market for much longer either.... But let’s be positive. Have a good day.(I’m not being sarcastic.) 😸

@Jaxx420 everyone says it’s EA. I really hope it’s not just EA. What exciting game have they done lately? I’m sure it’s a Tony if players thought. I mean been Apex and FIFA. I not sure how the intervention is going to work but I e heard you pay a bit more for EA Play and it streams in the xCloud ap. Again all rumors. I’d rather MS works with Sega and gets some of their back catalogue up and running on the service.