Yes, Bethesda's Starfield Reportedly Will Be An Xbox And PC Exclusive

Not really sure why PS fanboys keep questioning this.
Phil Spencer already said Zenimax games will be exclusive to platforms that support Game Pass and that legacy titles (ie the MMO games and previously released games) will be supported.
That's pretty clear cut for me.

It’s makes business sense if you want to sell more gamepass or more series consoles you have to give reason to buy into either or both.
Exclusives give that reason.
That is how Sony and Nintendo sell consoles etc.
Microsoft want to sell gamepass and/or consoles you have to give good reason to spend your money.

What kinda game is this? Havent heard of this game before.

@blinx01 Yeah, it's not exactly cryptic, is it? Is Game Pass on PlayStation 4 or PlayStation 5? No? Then you ain't playing it there. I bet the Internet is collectively trying to ascertain whether Bethesda games will be Xbox/PC exclusive even after each game has released for years to come.

@VenomousAlbino @blinx01 I think people are still hung up on the initial comment Spencer made: "on a case-to-case basis". They haven't replaced this with the comment he made about exclusive games coming to platforms where Game Pass exists. In other words, their information is outdated and they probably don't care enough to update it.

Anyway, now that we're finally getting confirmation about these things, it's just starting to hit me what an amazing addition ZeniMax is to Xbox. Starfield, Elder Scrolls VI, Fallout 5, Wolfenstein 3, next DOOM, The Evil Within 3, Dishonored 3 and more will only be available on the Xbox ecosystem. That's just crazy to me and people downplaying this are just irrational.

@LtSarge Yeah, it's the same mentality that partly contributed to Xbox One's struggles; people never got past the "always online" thing, even though Microsoft abandoned the approach long before the console actually launched.

The lineup you mentioned that Microsoft has got its hands on is indeed tantalising. And that's without the inevitable Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo ports (both of which will likely sport enhanced features and extra content) and the potential for comebacks from stuff like Quake and Commander Keen.

ACG reported this weeks ago.

Grubb isn’t the only “insider” with any clout ffs

The media really need to start paying attention to Defining Duke, and ignoring their biases and wrongful opinions of the owner because its under the LSM name.

@blinx01 There's someone who posted something along the lines of 'xbox fans still think Starfield is coming out this year' after there were rumours that it was coming out this year.

I do think it's a defense mechanism. They've got their emotional worth tied to a platform and it's sad. PS has some great games launching over the next six months, like Rift Apart, Forbidden West, and (hopefully) Ragnarok, but xbox getting Starfield this year, and all the other Bethesda games thereafter, would threaten to take some of that thunder away, and with it, some (if not all) of their happiness.

Of course. It makes no sense to spend that kind of money and then put your games on the competitors platform.

@blinx01 I have not seen anyone question it recently on social networks etc.

Just the media that seem to keep talking about it now. Lol.

Kinda glad I own all 3 for this. For those that dont hopefully can enjoy it on Xcloud somehow.

Its completely understandable why people still question which games from the Zenimax Group could come to Playstation.

The first big reason why is that neither Bethesda or MS have 'Officially' stated which platform(s) their 'announced' games are releasing on, let alone expected future releases.

Secondly, as much as people want to think Phil 'spelled' it out, there is still ambiguity in the statements and can be 'interpreted' to suit which ever side of the fence you sit on.

Thirdly, and this is more about 'Legacy' and 'Contractual' agreements, All the big IP's have games on Playstation - Doom for example was on PS before Xbox even existed - even if Doom 3 was initially an Xbox exclusive. Many gamers first experience of playing Elder Scrolls, Doom, Wolfensteiin, Dishonored, Evil Within etc etc were on Playstation. We also don't know what 'contracts' are in place. These games were announced before MS officially acquired Zenimax...

There is 'reason' to release all of those on PS - 3rd game in trilogies of Doom, Wolfenstein etc, Wanting to keep the Elder Scrolls Online community happy on PS (after all, MS also released Minecraft Dungeons on PS), and who knows if Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo get sequels, they 'could' release on PS too.

Of course, that doesn't mean these will release on PS, but its understandable why the arguments persist. The only thing I think that was confirmed was that regardless of whether or not these end up 'exclusive', they will be available day 1 on Game Pass. So even if they do come to PS, GP subscribers still 'win'...

@BAMozzy Microsoft has a very good track record of supporting “legacy” software versions and providing minor updates but that doesn’t really imply they are going to release the upcoming next software versions of those on other platforms. What Phil has told clearly is that this deal is about bringing great “exclusives” on gamepass supported platforms. Now if some platform doesn’t come with an internet browser deliberately to keep gamepass streaming option away from it’s users then that’s a different issue.

@SegataSanshiro Exactly. I think this will all be put to rest for good once E3 starts and Microsoft formally announce that Starfield is only coming to the Xbox ecosystem. Although there is a risk that one example isn't good enough for people to be convinced, so maybe it'll take a longer time and more announcements before people realise that future ZeniMax titles aren't coming to PlayStation. Actions speak louder than words after all, even if the wording is clear enough.

Will Insomniac's future games come to Xbox? Will I be able to play Spider Man on my console? Insomniac has not officially confirmed that their games will only come to PlayStation, so...

It's interesting that no Xbox fan would ask above questions, whereas PS Fans and die hard PS journalists are obsessed with whether Bethesda games will keep coming to their console or not. I guess one of the reason is that Xbox fans do not care about such things, they have the best features and services in their console, and they will soon get the best first party games as well. But PlayStation fans have nothing but "exclusives". That is the only reason they purchase a useless PlayStation that ONLY has good first party games. And consequently, they always worry about keep having the higher ground in this category. Cause TES VI being Xbox/PC exclusive will end their reign in first party.

MS kept Minecraft on everything, and there's also MS adjacent examples like Ori, Cuphead, and Lucky's Tale. I mean, yeah it is a bit different, but I'm just saying there is sortof a precedent - kind of. I really don't care either way - I play on everything so "exclusive" means pretty much nothing to me.

Does this mean that it can be purchased for PC... Or only that it will be available on Gamepass for PC?
If it was exclusive to gamepass, that would be a great way to drive subs.

Doesn't bother me, as I am Series X & gamepass... just curious.

Think is genuine why PS owners would be disappointed. If Sony bought Halo or Forza franchise and took it away from Xbox owners they would be sad too. It's different to Xbox owners feelings on Spiderman or God of War. They have no connection to it so it's no loss. In fact they can just dismiss the games as 'rubbish' as so many do, however losing a games series they are half way through is annoying.
As happy as Xbox owners are about MS stopping half of gamers playing those games it does feel a shame. I tend to rave about games I love to people and feel disappointed if they can't experience them.
My favourite film of recent times is JoJo Rabbit. I tell my mates to watch it but I don't tend to celebrate in joy when they say they can't watch it because they have a Samsung player instead of an LG one. That attitude to the art just feels very messed up to me - but is how people generally celebrate their hobby. I have both so it doesn't affect me but I'd love every Xbox owner to have experienced the non Xbox games I love.

@SegataSanshiro Haha yeah. Will be interesting to see how long this will last. Not to mention that people will still bring this topic up when Microsoft announces their next acquisition: "Will Ubisoft/SEGA/Square Enix games still come to PlayStation?". Even Phil Spencer will be fed up at that point.

Hell yeah, Who says Xbox has no games.. Take that haters.

The Bethesda stuff has been vague all the way through. At the Bethesda roundtable instead of vague comments that can be interpreted in different ways, there should've really been 2 announcements:

• Starfield - Very precisely announce the platforms (if it's only PC and Series X|S then specifically announce that)
• Announce a new game in an existing franchise (e.g. Wolfenstein) and very precisely announce the platforms

If Xbox really has lots of exciting stuff being announced at E3, there would've really been nothing to lose by announcing a few things prior to E3 to clear up the Bethesda situation once and for all. If anything this approach of being vague makes it seem like Microsoft are heavily relying on Halo Infinite again this year for example.

Now thats cleared up show us some gameplay as from what I've seen so far it doesn't look all that special from any other space game. So much hype about this game from everyone but all we've got is it's name lol

I'm just hoping it's an Rpg set in space and can explore abandoned ships and planets etc

Also I can see Microsoft dragging this out, at E3 it will probably get a trailer and at the end it will say coming to xbox series consoles but purposely not mention the term "exclusive", either to just keep teasing the sony player base or prolong the hiding the fact its also coming to playstation at some point but don't want people to know yet so can sell some more consoles first

@UltimateOtaku91
I think anyone that only games on PlayStation is going to be extremely disappointed if they still think Bethesda games are going to PS4/5.
Bethesda will be straight after the Xbox showcase and the game will be revealed for Xbox One, Series X/S and PC. Game Pass day one like all first party titles.

@blinx01 you're probably right and in the long run it's a shame as Bethesda will lose millions and millions of players from Sony and nintendo who have supported their games for years. But it is what it is I suppose.

@UltimateOtaku91
In the short term, yes, the PS4/5 sales numbers will be missed.
But the focus for Xbox is not on game sales numbers. The business model is having a guaranteed monthly revenue from Game Pass and increasing those subscriber numbers. To do that, you need exclusive content.
The Switch wouldn't be able to natively support these more modern games, but don't rule out seeing an announcement at the end of the year for either a Game Pass cloud app or the games to be sold as cloud games similar to Control and Hitman III.

@UltimateOtaku91 "Bethesda will lose millions and millions of players from Sony and nintendo who have supported their games for years"

Let's first see how FF16 will lose millions and millions of players from MS & Nintendo who have supported their games for years

@StonyKL exactly , most zenimax games I don't actually care about but if they make doom & the evil within Xbox & pc exclusive I'll just sail the high seas to play them

@Alan_Payne but Nintendo never get the newest final fantasies anyway? And final fantasy has been on playstation since the PlayStation 1 so if anything it has a legacy on playstation console so final fantasy isn't a good example. Plus I'm 100% sure final fantasy 16 is only a times exclusive so xbox players will get to play it

@UltimateOtaku91Well, one can argue that TES franchise has a legacy on Xbox/PC platforms as well. Morrowind was a full Xbox/PC exclusive and Oblivion came only to Xbox/PC when it was released.

Plus, this is just the beginning of the generation. It's not like PS5 has +100 million users that Bethesda would lose! So it makes more sense for MS to persuade potential users to buy an Xbox rather than be like "It's okay guys, go buy PS5. We will just release our games on PlayStation as well in order to avoid losing lose millions and millions of players there!"

@UltimateOtaku91 anyone that trully wants to play these games will have plenty of options to do so. Xbox, pc, or literally anything that can stream GamePass games. Someone will have to be an extreme fanboy to skip on Bethesda games they trully like just because they are not on PlayStation.

Also, only chance for Bethesda games coming to PS is if Sony ever ends up agreeing to allowing GamePass on their console.

@Grumblevolcano
Or, they could be remaining vague to keep tongues wagging. Keep Xbox and Starfield in the news and in our minds.

@BAMozzy "there's reason"

No offense, but not really. There's probably only reason in the eyes and minds of platform-specific gamers that have a desperate need to cling to straws. Not saying that's you, mind you, but the statement you made is highly debatable nonetheless.

We all know that there's LITERALLY dozens of examples of game series that have ultimately jumped platforms, for a multitude of reasons (as an immediate example, Bayonetta 2 comes to mind), so there's no real need or reason at all to neatly wrap up a series on a competitor's platform, just for the sake of completing the series and/or pleasing the fans.

Games like Doom already having been on PlayStation long before there was even an Xbox is also no reason whatsoever. If anything, it actually WAS a Microsoft platform title to begin with, seeing as it was on PC first and foremost.

And besides, it's an industry, not a courtesy service, so if Microsoft invested THAT much money into it, they're most definitely not going to give the acquired platform exclusivity advantage away, only to please some sour fans of other platforms who are so close-minded that they only support one console and think they're entitled to having each and every title coming their way...

So, that is why I do indeed expect them to ONLY honor the releases of titles that are already in development and which have been signed by Sony and/or Nintendo. But: that doesn't necessarily exclude as of yet unannounced titles, however, so you may actually have a point there.

It's wild to me that people still believe this won't be exclusive.

@StonyKL

" It's different to Xbox owners feelings on Spiderman "

Are you sure about that? Spiderman wasn't always a Sony/PlayStation exclusive, just the Insomniac developed ones.
It is very much disingenuous to claim otherwise.

@Sol4ris thought it was obvious I meant insomnia games. I don't think their Spiderman is part of a franchise from other platforms, specifically you played part 1 and now can't play part 2. Pretty sure they are stand alone games. My point being if Sony took Halo 7 so Xbox owners no longer have the means to continue the franchise it would annoy people.
And that's why the Bethesda games would annoy PS owners who have followed the franchise and now lost it. For me it would have been Wolfenstein mostly but having the series X I'm alright jack!

@The_New_Butler Well, either that, or just like with Bayonetta 2 on the Wii U, there will be some raising of torches and pitchforks involved...

@redd214 Indeed. They probably think that Phil Spencer is some kind of philanthropist who can freely use Microsoft's cash reserves to express himself by handing out software to competitors...

@The_New_Butler True. For some, protecting/defending their brands of choice has basically become a way of life, which will, in more ways than one, affect both their social skills and outlook on life, seeing as it promotes/instigates both egotism and narrow-mindedness.

@UltimateOtaku91 really can’t see that. I mean you used XCloud for months, and by the time Starfield launches PC streaming will be a thing. So it’s super easy to get it into the Xbox ecosystem.

Let's hope it's a great game if this rumor is true. MS need more killer exclusives for Xbox.

@Jaxx420 exactly. It’s more the media Xbox fanboys (see above comments) making this a thing. As a owner of all three tbh it’ll be nice for Xbox to start releasing some big and decent exclusives with solo player narratives (if indeed they do) - I can’t wait - as all three companies releasing big titles as exclusives is what we need. Especially with 3rd parties focusing on premium ftp or micro transaction heavy games.

I hope microsoft really start pumping out some exclusives.

@antstephenson All games on GamePass can also be purchased directly on PC (even with a 20% discount if you have gamepass) I see no reason why MS would change that. (And there is no indication they will)

@ThanosReXXX @Senua IF you actually read my post, you will of noticed that I was trying to explain WHY conversations have continued about Zenimax Studio game releases.

Whilst Phil was honest in his comments, its still relatively vague - especially where he says there is communities of players of these franchises on other platforms and will continue to support and invest in them...

Now you can 'read' that as meaning 'only' the games that are 'currently' on PS, but could mean that games like ESvi (because ESO and other ES games are on PS), Doom3, Wolfenstein3 etc (especially if they are the 'final' game in a trilogy) could come to PS. I am NOT saying they will (or won't) but until we have an official statement telling us exactly which games will release as Exclusives or multi-platform, this conversation will continue.

We don't know which games may have contractual obligations - outside of Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo - which includes Starfield and Indiana Jones too. Both games announced before MS's acquisition and could have some contractual obligation - although I think Indiana Jones is more likely of these two.

All I was saying is that until we have official statements about the future of these franchises, there is going to be continued speculation. My point was that even after Phils comments, there is still room for interpretation. Take games like Doom, Wolfenstein etc - even though these franchises 'started' on PC, the 'current' games are on PS too so have a legacy and community of players. Also, if you are continuing to support your Elder Scrolls Online community, wanting them to spend 'money', maybe ESvi could come to keep them 'happy'.

Again, not saying they will ALL come to PS. Just saying that until we get 'official' statements, people can make an argument for why these IP's will or won't be 'Exclusives' to Xbox. We don't even know if there is another Wolfenstein or Doom game in development - we know Machine Games are working on an Indiana Jones game and ID are finishing Doom:Eternal support.

We don't know if Dishonored or Prey will continue or maybe they are working on new IP's which will definitely be Exclusives. Of course, Xbox fanboys will want 'everything' to be exclusive and Sony fanboys will cling on to legacy and the community of fans on that platform - at least until official statements confirm either way.

As an Xbox gamer, one thing is certain is that ALL games will come to Xbox and Game Pass day 1 regardless (except Deathloop and Ghostwire of course) and you won't have to wait again. For Playstation gamers, they can cling on to 'hope', make a case as to why MS may release certain games on their platform of choice up until official confirmation.

This is why this conversation around Starfield continues today. I do expect Starfield to be Exclusive to Xbox but until its confirmed officially, discussions will persist...

@sanderev
That's cool... Was just wondering if they would make it gamepass only in order to drive subscriptions. But I've had it confirmed elsewhere as well that it will be available to buy... Which is good for gamers who have PS and PC, as they still get to play it.
Doesn't really affect me as I have gamepass and series x, but was just curious what the strategy was.

@SegataSanshiro

Bro, I've missed you. Cerebralbore from vgchartz here. I still can't believe the mod team banned you. So many good users have been banned the last couple years. The place has really gone downhill.

@SegataSanshiro

• TES6 is an Xbox/PC/Game Pass exclusive.

MojoPlays: "Point for PlayStation" 🥴

@SegataSanshiro That sounds about right. 😂

Sorry guys it's going to be available on PS5 as well 🙏🏻

https://mobile.twitter.com/JSingh10j/status/1393525111316041729

@BAMozzy Well, I actually DID read your post, and no offense, but what I read was a LOT of baseless assumptions, or at least: based upon what you have NOT heard Phil Spencer or any Bethesda representative say, which basically is no evidence to support your theory at ALL.

However, had you read MY comment as intended, then you would have also noticed that I mentioned the following:

"that doesn't necessarily exclude as of yet unannounced titles, however, so you may actually have a point there."

The only difference is that I see these things the other way around. You seem to see it as possible that they will still be announced for PS5, with the added disclaimer that they ultimately might not be, whereas I see it as more than likely not to be the case, although I'm not completely discounting it, but I still see it as PS5 supporters/fans clutching at VERY thin straws.

We may not know the state of certain series and/or IPs, but as I've already mentioned before, considering the simply MASSIVE investment of 7.5 billion, they would be absolutely bat sh** crazy to still allow any of these as of yet unannounced titles and/or sequels to be on any other platform(s) than on Microsoft's. That just wouldn't make any sense whatsoever, business-wise.

So, far as we now know the ONLY titles still to be released for PS5 will be Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo, and the Elder Scrolls Online will more than likely also still be supported, but other than that, there are no other confirmed or even rumored titles, so any theorizing about what may or may not come is nothing more than just that:
a theory...

@ThanosReXXX My post basically said the same as this. Until games are actually confirmed to release 'exclusively' or not, there is more than enough room to argue why these games 'could' be exclusive or could still be multi-platform.

That doesn't mean that I think that all those big IP's will continue to be multi-platform or even all be Exclusive. I was just pointing out that Phils comments were vague enough that IF you are a Fanboy, you can use his own words to make a reasoned argument as to why these could be multi-platform or could be Exclusive - depending on your own allegiance.

I know we haven't had confirmation that a new Fallout, Wolfenstein, Doom, Dishonored etc are coming but that doesn't stop gamers from 'pondering' about the future and using what has been said so far to theorise the possibilities. The fact that you can use Phils statement to make a reasoned case either way is why we will continue to see discussions over Zenimax releases.

I know a lot of PS fanboys are still holding on to hope that Starfield will come to PS, that its a 'timed' exclusive at most. Some expect Doom & Wolfenstein to finish off a 'trilogy' on PS and with games like Fallout 76 and ESO continuing to be supported, that MS will release Fallout 5 and ES6 on PS too and will do until MS/Bethesda confirm otherwise.

That's different from any new IP's these studio's create as I am sure the majority of PS gamers don't expect to see these coming to PS. But there are still PS gamers who think Starfield will come to PS at some point and probably will right up until Bethesda/MS officially state it will be exclusive.

The whole point of my post was to state that until officially confirmed, there is more than enough in Phils statement for fanboys to argue over which releases will be Exclusive or multi-platform.

I couldn't care less either way - I have a Series X with Game Pass Ultimate so I couldn't care less if they come to PS5 too or not. Its not going to impact on my ability to play. But the fact that I 'could' make a reasoned argument to say 'why' these games could release on PS too shows that Phils statement isn't as 'conclusive' as some Xbox fanboys want to believe either.

I don't expect Starfield to come to PS, not sure about numerous other franchises right now but wouldn't be surprised if they were all exclusive, some are, or none are. It may take a big IP being 'exclusive' to switch the dynamic of the conversation. Right now, it seems that PS fans feel that they won't miss out on the next instalments of their favourite franchise and will continue to expect it until its confirmed its not coming but if 'Doom3' is exclusive for example, the dynamic would change to PS fans will miss out on ES6, Wolfenstein 3 etc which should be what MS want if they want to sell Game Pass subscriptions.

@BAMozzy You know, the funny thing is that I think we basically agree for the most part, but as always, the devil is in the details, and you and me are just looking at those differently.

This funny image came to mind:

I'm the guy on the right, by the way...

As mentioned before, you see plenty of reasons to believe and/or to theorize about possibly still to be released titles for PS5, I see none, while both of us are basing our views upon the exact same information. To some extent, I find it equal amounts astounding and interesting how two people can come to such differing conclusions while looking at the same information.

And mind you, lack of information does not mean that there's proof of the opposite. In the case of video game development/publishing, it simply means they're keeping their cards close to their chest and that they want to release relevant info whenever they deem it to be the right time to do so, and not because "fans" want or need it, much less fantasize about what will more than likely never be...

For me, Phil not saying/confirming that there's NOT going to be any additional PS5 titles from Bethesda is not ample proof that there actually WILL be more titles for PS5, as you seem to think PS fans seem to have reason to believe. For me, that's circumstantial evidence, if even evidence at all. In a murder trial, the defense lawyer would make mince meat of that kind of "proof", which is also why I called it grasping at very thin straws earlier.

Anyway, thanks for elaborating, though. It at the very least made it more clear to me that it wasn't as much your personal belief but more your reasoning for thinking why certain Sony fans could still have room to believe that certain titles actually WILL come to the PS5.

Initially I thought that you also firmly believed that for yourself. My bad, partially, I guess, but that's what you sometimes get with having to interpret other people's comments, I suppose.

Time will tell, but my money's still on no extra stuff for Sony's forest of weeping willows, errr.... Sony's staunch fans.

@ThanosReXXX Whilst we are essentially agreeing, the main difference is that I was pointing out why Phils comments are vague enough that anyone can interpret them to read into it what they want.

For example, the Xbox fanboys will fixate on the 'delivering great exclusive games for you that ship on platforms where Game Pass exists' to mean that ALL games (apart from Deathloop & GW:T) will now be Exclusive - Doom, Wolfenstein, Fallout, Elder Scrolls - every 'new' release in these franchises. Of course, MS will continue to support the games already released.

Sony fans however will cling on to the fact that 'Zenimax' is supposedly a subsidiary and still keep some control. There is also Contractual (to hope that maybe Starfield and Indiana Jones release as both were announced before MS officially took over) or Legacy reasons, Game by Game basis and that there is a 'community' of fans on this platform and, if your going to keep Fallout 76 and ESO going, then these Franchises will need to keep releasing on PS too. I doubt they expect any 'new' IP's to release on PS if Bethesda are working on them - its just the franchises that have a history on Playstation.

It's that reason as to why 'discussions' about these games will continue ad nauseam until there are no questions over Exclusivity. If it was 'clear' back in March when Phil made his statement, why are we only just getting articles now about this? Discussions will still continue about the 'future' for these franchises too.

I personally don't think about whether or not these franchises will come to Playstation at all - I don't care. I have a Playstation 5 but I also own a Series X with Game Pass so regardless, I know I won't miss out. All I am saying is that I can see why Playstation fans can still make an argument as to why MS could still release those games on PS.

Honestly, I think the vast majority will be Exclusive personally - that is 'MY' opinion. Some franchises, particularly Fallout and Elder Scrolls, I am not as certain as others due to the continuation of F76 and ESO but until I know for definite, I cannot be 100% confident that these will all be exclusive in the future.

I can't say these will never be on Playstation either. 5yrs ago, I would of, but a lot of the walls have come down. At the start of last gen, the idea of playing a game across multiple platforms (cross-play between PS4 and XB1) was unheard of. If you bought a Studio, you were buying 'exclusivity' but Mojang continue to be a multi-platform studio and released Minecraft Dungeons on multiple platforms. Who knows, by the end of this gen, Sony may allow Game Pass on their platform - especially if Switch adds it too as 'rumoured'. MS won't be lying either when they said they wanted to bring 'exclusives' to platforms where Game Pass exists and we know MS and Sony have had discussion around cloud gaming.

Point is, I cannot say confidently that these games will 'never' be on PS. I am more confident in saying that I expect the majority to be 'exclusive' to Game Pass and, at the moment, that means these won't release 'natively' on PS too. But until we have official clarification on the future of these franchises, there is 'enough' in Phils comments to make a reasoned argument as to why MS should release those games on Playstation - again, not saying they will, but that Sony fanboys have enough to cling to in 'hope' - even if Xbox fanboys also have 'enough' to believe these will be Exclusive..

@BAMozzy "the main difference is that I was pointing out why Phils comments are vague enough that anyone can interpret them to read into it what they want."

I know that's what you meant, and as you know, I'm of the opposite conviction. It's been proven multiple times over that just because people are not saying certain things, or according to... let's call them "overthinkers", are holding info back on purpose, that there isn't any supposed need or reason to dig for hidden truths or for reading between the lines.

If that were true, then EACH and EVERY title released by Bethesda from now on should/would/could fall victim to the same inane scrutinization because "of course", UNLESS Microsoft gives the raging fanboys a definitive statement that title X or Y is NOT coming to your platform of choice, then there's still always a chance, right?

I sincerely DO hope that you realize how ridiculous that sounds and is. Neither Phil Spencer nor Microsoft needs to promise, explain or prove that these titles will only be released on Xbox and/or GamePass, because normally, that also doesn't happen, so why should it be the case now? Just because it's a massive takeover and more IP's are involved?

The same could then basically said about any and all of their titles. Heck, maybe we'll even see Rare Replay on Nintendo Switch, because you know, Rare used to be from Nintendo, and they and Microsoft have become really buddy-buddy of late and they haven't confirmed or denied that it's NOT going to come, so there is a "real" chance, right?

Anyway, let's leave it here. Good discussion, but I think we've basically covered all points and we're starting to run in circles, if we haven't done so already...