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LtSarge

I've been really getting into the Resident Evil series now and I thought it'd be nice to create a topic for it in case there are other fellow RE fans.

The games I've played so far are Resident Evil Remake, which I played through last year, and the original RE 1 and 2 on PS1, which I played through this year. I'm currently playing the original RE3 and having a blast with it thus far. The only gripe I have is that it's a bit too open compared to the previous two RE games. I've never had issues finding out where to go in the first two games, but I was actually stumped in the third game. The issue is that there are two maps in the first half of the game and I had no idea that you were supposed to go back to the first one in order to complete one of your objectives. In the past two RE games, the areas are not that big and it's fairly obvious where you should go next. That's not the case in RE3 though and it doesn't help either that the game keeps bringing new enemies to areas you've cleared. It's cool that it keeps you on your toes, but at the same time it discourages exploration, which is why I didn't want to go back to the first map due to how many enemies there were there.

Anyway, I want to ask what you guys' opinion is on the original PS1 trilogy. I've heard some people say that the original RE1 doesn't hold up well while RE2 is still a masterpiece. I don't understand this comparison at all as I've played through both games back-to-back and they play pretty much the same. Both games have tank controls, inventory management, puzzle-solving etc. and so I just don't get why people would say that RE1 doesn't hold up well but RE2 does. I agree that RE2 is better than RE1, but saying that RE1 doesn't hold up compared to RE2 is so weird to me, I don't get that at all.

Further, there's this conception that RE3 is action-oriented and once again, I don't understand that either. Unless you're playing on Easy where you start with a bunch of weapons already, but if you're playing on Hard (which is the Normal difficulty of the RE games) then the experience will be just as much "survival horror" as the previous two games. It's definitely not heavier on action than RE2 was. I mean, one of Claire's main weapons in RE2 is a freaking grenade launcher and she gets tons of ammo for that weapon throughout her playthrough. There's also a submachine gun, flamethrower, sparkshot and so on in RE2. So once again, I don't get why people are saying that RE3 is more action-oriented.

Finally, I'd like to talk about future RE games to play. So since I'm about to finish up the original PS1 trilogy, this will open up multiple options for me in terms of what I should play next. I'm playing through this series mostly in story order and after the original RE3, I can play either Code Veronica X, Zero or RE4. I think what I want to do is to play Zero next simply because I want a break from the main series so to speak. Code Veronica is apparently the hardest game in the series due to its unfair traps and it's another RE game with tank controls (which I've just played three of), so I think I'll play it at a later time. RE4 is regarded as one of the best, if not the best game in the series so I want to at least experience a few more RE titles before getting to that masterpiece. Zero is apparently also one of the most difficult games in the series, but at least there's an Easy difficulty mode, which I'm definitely going to choose. I've heard that you have to escort someone throughout the game and it can be hard trying to keep the other person alive. Not to mention that there are some enemy types that are ruthless on Normal difficulty. So for the sake of my sanity, and my enjoyment of the game, I think it'd be a good idea to experience Zero on Easy. Another reason for choosing to play Zero next is that I'll finally be able to start up the Chronicles games on Wii. I really want to play something on my Wii and Umbrella Chronicles looks like a lot of fun. It's apparently based on RE 0, 1 and 3, so after finishing up 3 and 0 I'll finally be able to play that game. But maybe you guys have some other input in terms of which order I should be playing the games since I obviously don't know that much about the series.

Apologies for the long post but there was so much that I wanted to write down about these games. I'm seriously loving this series so far!

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LtSarge

EvilSilentFrame

I love the RE series. I love the older games and I love the newer ones. Wasn’t crazy about 5 and definitely not a fan of 6, but overall, I’d say it’s a good series.

Going back to the original trilogy, I thought they were great games though I played them back in the day when they came out and tank controls were common. I think one of the reasons why 1 “didn’t hold up well.” Was the acting. Many thought it was laughable at times where 2 got more serious. I personally loved them both. 3 was considered more action than the other two because of Nemesis chasing you around in the game. It was just a new way of bringing tension to the gamer.

I personally would do Veronica next. It was my favorite in the series. I don’t have a reason why other than it was the first game I played on the Dreamcast which I was crazy about. Just loved that system. Veronica was a good challenge, updated graphics over the trilogy, and continued stories from two of the characters.

Zero really isn’t that hard. I personally thought it was one of the easiest but that’s just me. It’s a good game but I knew a few that didn’t like switching between characters to solve puzzles. I liked that it gave something new and fresh to the series.

4 was a good game but I don’t think it was the best. Part of me was let down with the game. It was a change from the other games which was needed but i was more let down with certain enemies being taken out. I don’t want to say too much because I don’t want to spoil anything.

5 wasn’t a terrible game, it just wasn’t very RE and I would just forget 6 unless you’re bored and have nothing else to play. It was just non stop action. If you like that, then go for it. I like more puzzle solving and story so it wasn’t a game for me.

7 brings back the horror. It’s probably the creepiest of the series. Definitely a very much needed reboot of the series and one to definitely give a try.

RE 2 and 3 remake came out next and I thought they were both excellent. I know a lot of fans were let down with 3, but I personally liked them both.

8 was a good game. Nowhere near as creepy as 7. It felt more like 4 but on a larger scale.

I hope some of this help.

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XandertheWise

Most of the Resident Evil games that i have physically theyre for my Nintendo Gamecube and original playstation

Resident Evil 0, Resident Evil Remake, Resident Evil 5 and Resident Evil Revelations 2 i have digitally for my Nintendo Switch Lite.

then i have Resident Evil 2 Remake and Resident Evil 3 Nemesis Remake for my X Box One S.

this year during the summer i sort of started playing Resident Evil 5 but got distracted by Bravely Default II and Xenoblade 1 and 2

XandertheWise

Banjo-

I am a huge Resident Evil fan since Resident Evil Remake. I think that that particular one is one of the best games ever made, but I loved all the numbered entries, Chronicles and both Revelations, for different reasons. After buying and beating Resident Evil 8 or VIIIage, I declare it the worst main Resident Evil game and not because I dislike lycanthropy, linearity or anything, but because it has the worst story by a light year, the worst script by another light year, the worst characters, the worst boss battles, the worst puzzles and the worst pace. This is the first time I find a main Resident Evil game a poor indie effort with a big budget. I'd rather play the solid Umbrella or Darkside Chronicles if I want just the shooting. The only positive thing I can say about it is the graphics except the curtains that don't move at all when you touch them and that Dolby Vision (LG OLED TV) is amazing in this game. Shadows of Rose is quite good. I needed to say all this somewhere because of how much I love Resident Evil. If you are curious about what I think about VII, I didn't like it much because I found it too gory and hated the first-person view, but I beat VII twice in a row, DLC included. Now, I need Code Veronica Remake more than ever before.

Shoe-horning Miranda as Spencer's mentor is laughable. The connections to the true Resident Evil games are so weak. Moreover, you have to zoom the map in too much to see what rooms are cleared in the village. Text disappears quickly so you have to press A to make it reappear, would be easier to press A to quit like always. Don't fix what's not broken. When you check something, you first have to try an item and once you fail, the game will tell you what you need. Resident Evil normally describes the object as seen by the character, then you investigate and see what you can do about it. They destroyed one of the best things about Resident Evil. Now it's try random item and then get the solution. I say random item because the game is too dark to see properly and the only items that shine are gems. The story is also told poorly, it's not consistent and fascinating as in the older games but feels like improvisation, even after reading all the files as I always do. Overall, Village is painfully bad and that's the best thing I can think of because the worst would be that it has ruined the future of the series, if I didn't know that Capcom is able to reboot and save. For future games, I would focus on everything that has happened before all this mess of broken ideas that VII and VIII are. Capcom, I beg of you. Resident Evil has been westernised and globalised pointlessly. This is wishing too much but Shinji Mikami should return.

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Banjo-

wikicel

I'm also a big fan of this game especially the remakes.

wikicel

benecoy

I'm a big fan of Resident Evil, for me it's the best horror game.

benecoy

oliverp

@benecoy. Cool. What is your favorite game in the franchise man? @Banjo Have you played any Resident evil game as of late?

Handysugar05051

Banjo-

@oliverp In my opinion, the best is Resident Evil Remake, because it has the best atmosphere, horror and balance between exploration and smothering challenges and encounters. It's almost necessary to create a strategy among the limited saves. The first remake of Resident Evil is intense, immersive and a piece of art at the same time. It has it all as a game and as a horror experience. If they remake this game once again to update the controls and/or the camera, they should be very careful to not destroy its masterfully crafted game design.

The most disappointing are 7 and 8, because they rely on gory scenes. In particular, Resident Evil 8 tells a cringeworthy story and has very mediocre progression. Some people compare it to 4, but 4 is much deeper and has many more intriguing and horrifying moments on top of the action sequences, not to mention the better story and characters. That's another problem with 7 and 8, I could not care less about the characters. The classic characters are more interesting and for the player are easy to identify with, but the new characters are in-your-face like it or not, right from the start. The classic story of Resident Evil is very deep and you are given glimpses of it in each scenario, while the new stories add shoe-horned connections between old and new and focus on ordinary confrontation.

Another one I'd like to mention is Code Veronica, that has the most fascinating story and it's the only main title without a modern version, so I would love that one to be remade next.

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oliverp

@Banjo- Oh interesting to read your analysis. I did not know you were a fan of the series. Even if I have read a few posts here and there about Resident Evil few have had the same depth as your analysis. Hm I personally think that Resident Evil is one my favorite franchises.

I think it would be cool if even more people would have had the opportunity to play the Resident Evil games because I have not read that many posts about them online. I think is something special about them. Not least the detailed environments which I find very cool to explore. Something which I dont think that many take the time to do, but it feels like many might just rush tough the games without giving much attention to the environments or other aspects of the game for that matter either..

That is why I see a value just as with other games to play more then once because I think it is hard to appreciate everything one of the games have to offer in just one play-through. Which is like why I think its cool to see that the remakes offer to play the games several times. Which I kind of think is necessary to fully experience them.

Also beside the environments I very much think that the inventory system in the Resident Evil games are very cool and something which makes the Resident Evil games unique. It feels like there is not that many games on the market that have such complex, or fully developed inventory system such as the Resident Evil games.

Also I think that the inventory system makes you think more about math then most games. It does not seems as math is something which is very much discussed with regards to gaming these days but I think that is something that is worth thinking about, or last its something that I think about often when I play some games like Resident Evil. Because I think it like necessary to do some calculations on how much you can fit in your inventory before you run out of space.

*Thanks you very much for posting your note about the game.

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ErikaPhillips

I used to be too scared to play these games when I was a kid, but now I'm thinking about buying all the RE games and getting through. I hope I'll still be able to sleep someday.

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TheComebackKid

@oliverp: I've been a fan of the Resident Evil games since my twin bought the first one for his PlayStation(I never had one since I can't handle the controller due to my cerebral palsy), but my first gaming session was RE2 on the N64. As much as my nerves get me constantly with these games, I LOVE the atmosphere of it, and that always brings me back in! I've played every game except RE6 (and Code Veronica), and I've managed to complete the original RE2 and the remake, as well as the remake for RE3, and I'll keep playing until either I finish them all, or I'm taken out!!

TheComebackKid: Gamer 4 Life

Banjo-

@oliverp Thank you, Oliver. I enjoyed your post very much as well and I agree about the environments and characters being remarkable in the good Resident Evil games. I also like the unique parts of it, like the herbs at the outside balcony of the mansion. Everything in this first remake is delightfully eerie.

I'm a fan. I'm more vocal about Project Zero/Fatal Frame because they need much more support than Resident Evil, but I love both. About the multiple playthroughs, I do some replay sessions in chronological order, usually 0, 1 Remake, 2 Remake, 3 Remake, 4 (Remake), Revelations, 5, Revelations 2 and 6. I'm looking forward to Code Veronica Remake, because I loved the original that I played on Xbox One, but I also found it a bit frustrating. I have only played 7 and its DLC twice and 8 once, because they aren't at the same level, but I have played the others more than I expected. I even played the GC version of 3 in hard mode and boy, it was too hard. I also enjoy replaying The Umbrella Chronicles and The Darkside Chronicles on Wii (Wii U) very much, except for a few quick motion QTEs that are difficult to trigger correctly. One thing I love and I forgot to mention is the limited ammunition that, obviously, adds another layer of strategy. Replaying 1 Remake never gets old! It's definitely one of my favourite video games ever.

Banjo-

oliverp

@Banjo- Thanks for your reply, appreciate it. I personally find that Resident Evil Remake 2, 3 and 5 have the best replay value. I think those are like my favorite Resident Evil games tho. Village is also quite nice though imo.

@TheComebackKid @Banjo which are like yours favorite Re game and why?

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Handysugar05051

Banjo-

@oliverp My favourite Resident Evil game must be Resident Evil Remake for the reasons posted above 😊. The one I want to see next is Code Veronica Remake.

Banjo-

Yousef-

Onimusha is the best Resident Evil. Although jokes aside, I adore the ps1 trilogy a lot. Definitely a pretty funky set of games.

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oliverp

Have anynoe been up to something Resident Evil related as of late? I do find it a bit strange in someways that that RE is available on Xbox hehe.

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oliverp

Hm given that I was recommed coop in Gears what Resident Evil game have the best coop mode in your opinion? Iam personally not sure if it is Resident Evil 5 or six.

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oliverp

While Iam not sure everyone agrees I think both Resident Evil 5 and 6 have pretty great Coop tbh. I mean while Residen Evil seems to a be pretty appericated I think thst 6 still might be an underated one. Its my opinion that even if I understand that some might have played one or two Resident Evil games I think there is still many who dont have played many games in the series which is something I find a little bit unfortunate in some ways.

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oliverp

I personally would want to see something like an open world Resident Evil game next but I dont think Capcom need to stress much about announcing the next game in the series.

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Bob_Salat

@oliverp Interesting, Capcom would really have to have something special to make it work though as the whole open world concept is fairly stale. I personally love the tight corridors of the early titles but found Village had a nice balance even though it wasn’t fully open per se

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