It's Official, The Metal Gear Solid 3 Remake Is Coming To Xbox Series X|S

Why is it called Metal Gear Solid Triangle now? I don't get it.

@Fraser Gilbert If u check the oficial site, they say latest plataforms in plural so I belive ITS really coming ti Xbox/steam. (Check the developer notes)https://www.konami.com/mg/mc/us/en/

Omg. I'm so happy! I'm almost moved to tears. Thank you mother, for giving birth to me!

MGS 🔺looks great
But I Honestly can’t wait for MGS◼️

@Ralizah It helps separate it from original and avoid that awkward mess that CoD:MW2 2022 vs 2009 has to deal with for example.

Nice. Definitely will nab so long as its not utterly broken. Still wondering about the old collection though.

Amazing game back in the day.. I cannot wait to play this on my Series X..

Xbox burned PlayStation http://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1661489113814679553

Seems collection is multi platform:
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1661488241038733312?s=20

@Kaloudz I think 3 was more beloved than 1.

Plus, in terms of canon, it's the first "beginning" of the timeline.

Hyped, haven't played MGS3 in ages.

@Kaloudz Metal Gear Solid 3 is the first game chronologically in the series.

@Sveakungen Hopefully vol. 2 includes MGS4 (and would be available for the first time outside the PS3).

I wonder if you will have a choice to play Twin Snakes version for MGS1. I love that one!

@Kaloudz Oh god don't remind me of the Silent Hill HD Collection.

I believe the collection is coming to Xbox as well, due to the exclusion of mgs 4, which Sony has exclusive rights to.

@Kaloudz
Roflol. Yeah, Silent Hill collection was very rough. If I remember correctly though, it was kind of a 343i situation. After Team Silent got disbanded Konami placed Tomm Hulett and his studio in charge of managing the brand, and like 343i they drove it into the ground. Honestly there are a lot of parallels, but it would be a super long post to name them all.

I couldn't give a flying fart in the wind about the Remake. I want MGS1!

I'll definitely check it out.

I want Hideo Kojima

I played it for the first time last year (MGS HD Collection) but most likely is a day one buy for me. It is an absolute masterpiece!!

@BrilliantBill
But CoD mw2 2022 and 2009 are different games
Mgs delta is a remake of MGS 3

@Wiiiiiiii You are right. Perhaps because they want this game to be the intro to MGS for a new generation and it is kinda odd to start with 3 ?

@Kaloudz
It seems so, but would they remake original metal gear too?😂(metal gear, not metal gear solid)

Unless they're going all out, I'll just assume with this new info they lied about getting MGS Collection 2 & 3 relisted this year.

But without Kojima?

@BrilliantBill I dunno, man, Capcom remade the first four Resident Evil games without giving them weird titles. Shadow of the Colossus remake didn't have a weird title. I feel like it's really not a huge issue most of the time. If anything, calling it MGS Delta (thanks for that, @Wheatly) is going to cause more confusion than anything.

Honestly, the remakes should simply had removed the numbers and just give kept the subtitles:

Metal Gear: Snake Eater (remove the "Solid", anyone that played it would understand why I say this.)

Only the "first" one should be called Metal Gear Solid.

It is what it is, though. I'm guessing they will use random greek alphabet letters in the future remakes. Wonder if "Solid" will be "Alpha" or pick a greek alphabetical order that goes after Delta.

@Kaloudz The Twin Snakes is a remake of Metal Gear Solid. I played that remake on Gamecube and loved it. Then I played 3 on 3DS (not ideal) and V-I and V-II on PS4, that have great gameplay and graphics (and a daft story by Kojima), I think we have talked about them. I got the Xbox 360 games for my Series X, that is 2, 3 and Peace Walker but I haven't played them. The remake of 3 is welcome but I don't get the Delta, it's either 3 or no number. Other IPs have ditched the numbers.

Now please remake the Silent Hill games for Xbox and not just PS5!

Reminder Kojima has nothing to do with this the terrible people who made Metal Gear Survive do

This is not even a teaser ...

@Ralizah
But Capcom didn't start with RE3, but your right, calling it MGS delta is going to cause confusion
Is it possible they want new players to think it's a new game and not a remake?

With the Collection, I wonder if you will have to look on the back of the box to get a codex code?

And the 1,2 and 3 bundle?

Really glad this is coming to Xbox as well, I'll play on PS5 personally as that's where I feel like it belongs but I'm glad no one's missing out

@Kaloudz
Nope, metal gear is the first game in release order, and after that there's metal gear 2, and then metal gear solid

@Kaloudz I don't like Bloober's work either. Layers of Fear is ridiculous and The Medium is mediocre at best. I would be happy if they just fixed the Silent Hill HD Collection, something that they have never done on Xbox in spite of being backwards compatible. The PS3 version is slightly fixed. Actually, I don't have the HD Collection so you and @Utena-mobile know more about it. I would love to have the classic Silent Hill games available on Xbox and not need a PC emulator for them. Otherwise, I'll play them on PC someday. I've only played Shattered Memories on Wii so far. I agree about the numbers, they are very convenient! Without them, you need Wikipedia 😂.

@Kaloudz
They're canon😁
But only the MSX2 version is canon, NES version isn't canon

@Kaloudz Spot on, as always, mate. I respect Bloober, but I think they're not ideal for an SH remake. In fact, in the first trailer shown, I already felt the usual Bloober awkwardness in graphics and design.

@Kaloudz You played SH Collection on Xbox? I played it on PS3 and I had no problem, even if I did know that there was a game breaking bug on both consoles (I think it was related to the trophies/achievements). Of course, it was not an ideal remaster!

@Kaloudz
Funny, I had MGS 5 and I didn't play it too😂
MGS 5 isn't a complete game(literally), but I heard it's a good game.
you played MGS 2, but I'm not sure, never played a metal gear game before, but I will!

@Banjo- The SH2 remake is timed PS exclusive so will have to wait and see

But MG 3 remake is a nice start tho

@Kaloudz That Silent Hill HD experience sounds horrible.

Metal Gear Solid V story is daft, the gameplay and graphics blew me away back then @Wiiiiiiii

@Wheatly Well Delta is the third letter in the Greek Alphabet so maybe has to do with "3". Also it's used as the symbol for "change" or "difference between" so maybe that refers to it being updated? A bit of a stretch there though.

@Banjo-
Yeah, the gameplay was very smooth(and still is) and the graphics were one of best I have ever seen
*I played the game for 2-3 hours

@Wheatly Damn ancient Greeks. Why couldn't they put their letters in alphabetical order? No wonder they didn't last.

@Wiiiiiiii I had little to play back then, I beat it completely 😁.

@Kaloudz 3 is the best one ,and the first one in order

I bet it will run worse than ps5, worse performance

@Banjo- @Kaloudz
lol. I try not to let a chance to talk about MGS and SH pass me by. I'm sorry for boring you.
After Team Silent ended Tom Hulett was put in charge to manage the IP and the studios involved. I don't know why, but he picked Hijinx (they were a mobile game studio) to do the HD collection. At the time, video game preservation was bad (it still is) and Konami had lost the source codes for SH 2 and 3. They weren't the only ones though, tons of studios, both Asian and Western didn't care about preservation, for example, SE lost the source codes for FF VIII. Most retro games aren't ports anyways, they're roms running through emulators.

Rather than taking the PS2 and Xbox versions and reverse engineering them like Blupoint did with their remasters, Hijinx decided to try to fill in the source code themselves. And that was how we ended up with really crappy ports missing textures, audio files, effects, and of course, Hijinx were in over their head, so on top of that it had performance issues.

at release, the Xbox version was the better version because it could run faster (although it could still lock up and crash). The PS3 was nearly unplayable. SH2 had a chance of crashing every time it checked for a trophy. Some parts of the game ran at like 12 fps, and SH3 suffered from slowdown the entire game.

Eventually the PS3 version was patched to bring it up to Xbox ver's standard. In the process they also included a few audio and texture fixes, but it was a 5g patch which was huuuge during the PS3's lifetime. Because Xbox was considered the "better" version it never got a patch, so for awhile PS3 was the best version.

However, even without a patch, the BC version on Xbox One/Series SX actually fixes some of the technical slowdown and crashes. So now, the Xbox ver is the best version again (through BC).

So we are getting "The Metal Gear Solid Collection Vol I" which includes

• Metal Gear Solid
• Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance Version
• Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence Version

I assume Vol 2 Will have

• Metal Gear Solid 4
• Metal Gear Solid 5
• Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker (maybe)

I find it interesting that for this remake Konami is calling it Delta and not 3. Maybe they plan on over the next 15 years or so remaking all 5 and maybe even Peace Walker games. If they did this they could essentially drop the numbers and just title them and then release them according to their timelines and maybe properly finish 5.

@Kaloudz Lol, ok.
And yes it will!! Especially 3, but they still won't be the original experience. They'll at least be beatable though. And the stories are good enough to still be memorable even with its technical issues.

@Kaloudz The fog still looks bad. lol.

@Utena-mobile What remakes did Bluepoint make using reverse engineering? I applaud them.

Thanks a lot for explaining the development story of Silent Hill HD Collection so well. So what are the remaining issues on Xbox? @Kaloudz says that he couldn't beat one of the games or is it on Xbox 360 and not on Series X? I'm tempted but I am going to wait a bit longer.

Another question, they say that Konami didn't patch the Xbox 360 version but then those people mean that they didn't patch it after fixing the PS3 version. What things are better on the PS3 version?

@Ashadelo The ending of V is literally repeating the last missions LOL. I had never seen that before in my whole life. So, if this collection is called Volume I then we can assume that there is a Volume II... 😊

@Kaloudz Yes, the story of V which is what Kojima made is bad, in my opinion. The gameplay, graphics and performance are awesome so the developers' work is excellent. The game is enjoyable but very challenging.

@Kaloudz Nope, all games are different stories and the best part about them is the gameplay. There are a few references and recurring characters but they don't leave you wondering what the heck is going on and what did I miss. You can only play V and you'd be fine. V-I (Ground Zeroes) is stunning. V-II (Phantom Pain) has a very original introduction and after that the whole game is about the gameplay with HQ explaining each mission. There is also a bit of HR management and a dog that eventually joins you. It's a game that feels real, you have to call the helicopter each time you need it and meet it at the rendezvous point. The ending is repeating the last missions and little else. It's weird and rushed.

@Kaloudz Play Ground Zeroes, it's just one mission that you can tackle in different ways. It's a demo that was sold as a half-priced game, I have both games separately 😅.

@Banjo- They used to be known for making "perfect" ports. I don't know all the ones they worked on, but I had their Metal Gear Solid HD collection, the Shadow of the Colossus/ Ico collection, and Gravity Rush HD.
These days they don't remaster games anymore. They bring the level design and gameplay, but update the graphics. I have mixed feelings though because I don't think their art design team is as good as the games they remake. Also Demon's Souls PS5 has worse music than original

@Kaloudz Oh, here's a gameplay tip! Play Phantom Pain last. Do every single main mission and save Quiet's last mission for the end. As you play the game, play only the tapes that are relevant to the missions. Save all the extra tapes. Then play Quiet's last mission. After it's over, got to Africa, find a safe hut, and point the camera at the sky. Listen to all the remaining tapes and treat it like an Audio Drama. Then finally play the real last mission (so you can watch the secret ending).
It is an amazing way to finish the Metal Gear Saga, it feels satisfying, and it wraps up every loose end in the story.

Then turn off your tv and go for a walk.

@Utena-mobile I have the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection and Peace Walker on Xbox but I haven't played them.

I didn't know about the tapes so I played Phantom Pain normally. Ground Zeroes is great as a demo, as a tutorial and it's fun. I didn't stop until I got the S ranking and unlocked the little extras.

@Banjo- You haven't played them!!
Ground Zeroes hits really hard if you play it right after Peace Walker. ( T_T)

Btw, even though Xbox doesn't have the entire collection (yet), we've got all of Big Boss' story. MGS3HD, Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, and Phantom Pain can be grouped easily into their own saga.

@Utena-mobile Just to clarify, I've beaten The Twin Snakes, 3 on 3DS and both parts of V as soon as they were released. I still have to play the HD Collection (2 and 3) and Peace Walker. So now all games are on Xbox except 4, right? Because Volume I brings 1, 2 and 3, plus the separate 3 remake. So would Volume II be 4, Peace Walker and 5? The selling point would be 4 because it's stuck on PS3 to date.

@Banjo- You're correct! ( ^_^)
Although I think its funny that you played them all on such different consoles. lol.
Btw I wouldn't be surprised if Volume 2 (or maybe 3?) has MGS4. I think Master collection comes out this Autumn though, so anyone that hasn't played 1 yet have to wait until then. But eventually we'll get all of them (crosses fingers).

Do you think they'll also release the side games? Portable Ops 1 and 2, Metal Gear Acid 1 and 2, and Metal Gear Project Babel?

@Utena-mobile And I haven't told you all: The Twin Snakes on Gamecube and 3 on 3DS because I was a Nintendo fanboy until last generation. V-I and V-II on PS4 because it was my first and last Sony console. I settled down on Xbox 😁.

I didn't know about all those side games but I think it's likely that all the games are included. Ground Zeroes has significant retro extras considering how short the game is and the main games have been re-released before except 4. Perhaps, Volume III is retro and side games.

@Banjo- lol. Nice!! That's kind of what happened with us too.
Do you like Xbox the best?
And yeah, that makes sense. And if we also take into account the Castlevania collections, I think there's a good chance some of those side games will get released too. I mean, Castlevania vol 1 came with Kid Dracula. lol.

@Utena-mobile Kid Dracula is a good example of Konami's game preservation 👌🏻. Yes, Xbox One (my first Xbox console) was a much better experience than PS4 regarding hardware, software, controller, services and, most of all, I love the backwards compatibility. I upgraded to Xbox One X which is amazing compared to PS4 and PS4 Pro and then to Series X which is technically the best console ever. Beside, Xbox has Rare Replay and it was enhanced! Nintendo has changed and lost much of its magic.. And you?

@Banjo- I like all the jrpg games on Switch, but Nintendo makes a lot of decisions that kind of annoy me so I understand. But I'm like you, my first Xbox was the Xbox One (and is still my current main console).
Originally I hated Xbox, but my sister dated a guy and he used to bring his 360 over so when they split she wanted to get her own console. when she was at the store she txted me which one I liked more and I was like "Please get a PS4!!" But I replied too late and she had bought the Xbone and Halo MCC by then.

I still remember the first two games we had for Xbox, it was MCC and Resident Evil Origins. lol.
At first I was annoyed but over time the console and the controller really grew on me. And I also fell in love with backwards compatibility. So many great games on there. I don't have Rare Replay, but I've played Banjo Kazooie 1, Perfect Dark 1, and I have Kameo in my library. ( ^_^)

@Kaloudz Kojima burnt the budget's money and couldn't meet the deadline, that's why the relationship with Konami deteriorated. Konami decided to split the game in two so they could release something earlier but it's just one mission in a different place. As a demo is excellent, as a half-priced game is (was) a rip-off 🤣.

@Utena-mobile That's a really interesting story! As a Nintendo fanboy, I also thought that Xbox was the worst. These days, it's Sony who is trying to hurt the Xbox userbase while Nintendo is doing their own thing.

Disclaimer: This is my opinion. Nintendo still makes some good games but best Mario 2D game still is Super Mario World, best Mario 3D games are those before Super Mario Odyssey which is really dull. They destroyed everything I love about The Legend of Zelda with Breath of the Wild, not to mention that Double Dash still is my favourite Mario Kart game in spite of having Mario Kart 8 for Wii U and Switch, having paid twice for the same game in the same generation to the same company and having paid additional money for the Wii U DLC and for the Course Pass for Switch. The Course Pass is not available for Wii U in spite of sharing engine and having worse graphics than the main game. So, it's not just the lower quality of their games but their business decisions, the underpowered hardware, the low-quality controllers and their insane obsession with protecting their IPs even if it means hurting the fans that made them rich. I would love them to become a third-party publisher and only pay them for the games.

@Kaloudz I wish I played Kameo after it was enhanced to be 4K and 60fps on Series X. The difference is incredible! It's like a brand-new remaster, for free. Rare Replay is better than ever. Absolutely recommended.

@Kaloudz I hope that you have Rare Replay! Kameo supports FPS Boost and it's 60fps! All the Xbox 360 games were enhanced to be 4K. The original Xbox and the retro games were 1080p from the start.

Yes, Ground Zeroes is a big mission that you can tackle in different ways and it takes place in a different location. It's a short game.

@Kaloudz Jet Force Gemini is frustrating at first but once I got used to it, it became one of the most fun and addictive shooters I've ever played.

@Kaloudz I had not played Jet Force Gemini before but on Rare Replay they added modern controls. The trick is try not to move the camera and move the stick slightly when aiming. I beat it 100%.

Nuclear explosions? Blast Corps. I still have not got the hang of it but they say it's a lot of fun.

@Kaloudz You shouldn't have uninstalled it 😜.

@Kaloudz Ha ha, if you ever try again, play it with a guide because it's more complicated than Banjo-Kazooie.