Bethesda Fires Back At Legendary DOOM Composer Mick Gordon, Rejects Accusations

“Appropriate venue”

Cultist Base maybe ?

Marty Stratton thought Reddit was an appropriate venue to throw accusations first

Sounding similar to bayonetta voice actors story being revealed as lies by real evidence from Platinum.

We have the evidence. Honest.

Well I think it's safe to say this bridge is well and truly burned to a crisp.

They got receipts!!!! 😂

Non of the individuals come out of this looking clean. Mr Stratton should not have published his thing on the Reddit in the first place

Mr Gordon should have gone to court at that point if he felt wronged and had his evidence of such. Instead he went the same route.

At this point it's just two supposedly industry professionals calling each other names like kids in a playground (not a good look for either party regardless of who started it.)

Bethesda being the "adult" are just saying if you feel aggrieved we will see you in a court. Which is the appropriate venue to "solve" such issues as opposed to the court of social media.

@BBB only Bethesda was not the adult here, since they (Marty Stratton, to be precise) were the first ones to publicly defame Mick Gordon, something that could and likely did hurt his career.

@Tharsman Really depends on if Marty was acting on behalf of Bethesda there or not. I reckon if he had spoken to Bethesda, they almost certainly would have told him not to go to Reddit, because I'm sure there was a smart person at Bethesda somewhere.

Marty works for id Software, not Bethesda directly, he just works for one of their studios. That would be like saying an Obsidian staff member speaks on behalf of Microsoft, or Bethesda speak on behalf of Microsoft, they do not. Bethesda are likely stepping in and taking over Marty's side of the argument because it's escalating, probably giving him the backseat from now on, especially if there is a legal challenge. But yes, I imagine Bethesda is annoyed that Marty went Reddit and gave them a headache.

@Xeno_Aura straw man argument. He works for Bethesda, and Bethesda made a public statement now literally stated they support Marty’s side on this and are called Mick’s statement one sided.

And honestly, yes this also looks bad on Microsoft. Microsoft just directing press to Bethesda is imo not a good look either. Bethesda is infamous for being litigious, at least pre-acquisition. It will look horrible on Microsoft’s face if they slow Bethesda to go back to those patterns now with this, especially when it was someone on the payroll that started the whole thing by being extremely unprofessional on Reddit.

Maybe Mick missed some legal small print somewhere that made none of this illegal, but the moment Marty tried to hurt Micks reputation this turned sour. Regardless if Mick gets paid or not, this won’t look good until there is some public apology from Bethesda, Marty and maybe even MS.

Why do people keep saying Marty started this with a reddit post? That was not the beginning. Mick started this (publicly) when responding to angry fans about the low quality of the OST. The reddit post was a response.

@Tharsman you will note I said both individuals acted in a way that looks bad . Non of them look any better than school kids arguing in the yard at break. At this point it's irrelevant who started what at any location outside of a court room.

Bethesda are the parent company and they responded in an appropriate manner for that position. Essentially saying if you have an issue with us or any of our employees we are happy to see you in court.

If you view this differently then to save us both a bit of time I will just agree to disagree and move on with my day.

@BBB we will have to agree to disagree indeed. If you bring children fighting analogies, this statement is the dad of one of the kids joining in on the fight kicking down the smallest child and daring them go to the principals office.

Anyone who believes anything Bethesda has ever stated is living in an alternate reality.
They have proven themselves to be lairs time and time again. I'll never believe anything they say and haven't for about 5 years when it became obvious just how much contempt Todd has for his customers.

Mick has receipts.

Bethesda has accusations, a sketchy history, jack, and $@&*.

I know who I believe.

I assume the truth lies somewhere between the two fabrications.

@BBB if you read the full statement you’ll see he did go to court and was offered a large sum of money but with the clause he had to accept all responsibility for everything and never speak of it again.

The damage to his professional reputation would stand wihout his side of the story being aired. After a year of going back and forth with Bethesda delaying things it’s only then he published his response. At this point what has he to lose ?

If Bethesda has as many receipts as the ones Mick Gordon published in his response it will be interesting to see where the truth lies.

@Jenkinss While he made the Twitter responses first, Bethesda put HIS name on what would be a cr*p ost BEFORE he was contractually obligated, worse yet, the contract came 2 days before its release meaning that the entire OST was riding on his name without his consent up until a couple days before it was marked to release, and he had no creative control while being abused by his superiors. I don't know how this man stayed sane. I've been in a toxic work environment and felt urged to do much worse than simply call out facts. I'd make a stand. But he even went back on the goodwill they'd apologize TOGETHER and release something better, which was then met with the reddit post by Marty. And if he had not met their agreement, he was going to be financially responsible for losses on the pre-order version. Think about that. They made him responsible for its delivery while he wasn't present, and then held him at gunpoint while he was trying to create the product.