The ongoing court battle between Epic Games and Apple has brought a lot of confidential documents into the spotlight, and one of these suggests that Xbox "haven't given up" bringing Xbox Game Pass to other consoles.
Xbox boss Phil Spencer mentioned this in an email to Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney in August of 2020, telling him that "I have your point on xCloud on other consoles ('haven't given up')", as highlighted by The Verge and Windows Central:
"Additionally, Phil Spencer also noted that they 'haven't given up' on getting Xbox Game Pass onto other consoles, i.e. like the Nintendo Switch."
Notably, Spencer references Xbox Cloud Gaming rather than Xbox Game Pass in his email, but as the two are linked at present, it sounds like the team at Xbox would specifically like to bring Game Pass streaming to other consoles.
The other part of the email from Spencer relates primarily to Xbox's efforts to remove the Xbox Live Gold requirement for free-to-play games, which eventually happened last month. At the time in August 2020, the Xbox boss told Sweeney that "we will get there [with F2P] and I want to partner with you."
What are your thoughts on this? Let us know down in the comments section below.
[source theverge.com, via windowscentral.com]
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Well we've seen a Switch in the background of several Xbox execs' streams now so I guess an announcement regarding Xbox Cloud Gaming coming to Switch is imminent. Maybe at E3?
Only Xbox can pull off such open-hearted initiatives.
Switch is a certainty.
The question is, will it ever come to PlayStation?
@Jacko11 With Sony involved? Nope.
@Jacko11 pretty sure PS fans are not excited about cloud-only gaming on PS5
I'm not sure how i feel about this to be honest..
Don't be phased on the idea of bringing GP/xcloud to other consoles. This isn't about 'rival boxes', it's about MONEY. If it makes financial sense to do it for both parties, they'll do it.
I’m sure x cloud will be on all devices on day.
It makes marketing sense for Microsoft to do so.
Of course the premium experience will be game pass ultimate on a series console.
So there are choices for all.
I have good internet and I still think cloud gaming as a loooooot of work to be done. It works terribly now
Game Pass on Switch has to be streamed, no two ways about it. I hope MS and Nintendo can reach an agreement on this.
@GunValkyrie I believe that's the idea
@GunValkyrie @Kamalen
The local experience will always be superior. So PC or Xbox. Anything else is imitation crab meat. 🦀
Makes sense. One day soon an Xbox app will just be like a Netflix app or Disney plus app. There might even be Xbox buttons on remote controls to launch the app. That doesn’t take anything away for anyone with an Xbox. Just means more people to play with.
I saw a comment elsewhere that pointed out because the fastest growing market for gaming is in Latin America, and the average wage in Latin America is about a one-fifth the average wage in the US, Microsoft ought to make xCloud accessible through a RetroArch "core" for use in cheap gaming systems like the RetroPie. I couldn't agree more.
@Bruvas
A little soap opera called, Epic vs Apple.
If GamePass via xCloud is on the PS5 and/or Switch & you have a decent internet, there is really no reason for an Xbox console. This could be the last consoles from Xbox.
@Senua More like it makes business & financial sense. But it is a win-win for everyone!
@sqxrz Don’t worry it won’t be the last Xbox console by any means. The native performance will be always better than the cloud ones. This is just to ensure everyone gets a peak into the Xbox ecosystem before they make further investment. But next-gen consoles, SDK, APIs etc will always be under research and development by Microsoft. Also you need to have a browser for xCloud (in ecosystems that doesn’t want to share revenues).
@Senua We can't say that with 100% certainty, but it certainly looks like with each passing day there's less & less incentive to buy Xbox consoles (Play Anywhere, xCloud, GamePass for PC).
@sqxrz It is 100% certain just from sheer facts that :
1. Cloud will never dominate over native hardware gaming market.
2. Most next-gen features of PC gaming (lot of them are not even available on PC) are researched and developed on Xbox consoles first. Microsoft is highly invested towards Windows and PC development but due to highly fragmented PC market install base it’s always more feasible to create and test new technologies first on consoles.
3. Phil Spencer has the most promising vision to make Cloud gaming as an accessory service only. Every other companies who have gone to a cloud-first approach gaming are at loss now.
4. Other platforms are also working on Gamepass/xCloud alternatives of their own and they have already started supporting PC gaming (console narrow mindset won’t work for financial viability). Also they have gone as far as not including a web browser so that xCloud doesn’t come to their platforms.
5. There’s not a single financial competitive advantage that Microsoft will achieve if they stop producing consoles as they are selling out and performing really well right now. They have gone as far as launching 2 consoles together in this generation which is a huge investment. Also it will be a great loss for all consumers if they never get to know what performance advantages they are missing out on when there’s no competition. Competition is always preferred to benefit all consumers. There’s always room for more than one and only idiotic fanboys will want anything otherwise.
6. Phil has confirmed few months ago that they are already designing and developing the next Xbox console.
So no matter which fanboy youtuber or fake journalists tell you otherwise, it’s just not going to happen with 0% possibility.
I just love the fact that two companies are fighting in the court and the secrets of other companies are spreading out as the result ) This is just hilarious!
It's hard to imagine Nintendo allowing MS to sell XGP on Switch, but having X Cloud there does not seem very far off...
SwitchStation Series X5 now includes 1 month free trial to GameStation Now Ultimate Online.
Interesting if true but wouldn't that mean there would be LESS reason for someone to buy a XBOX console if they can get XB games on other systems?
If you was going the way of SEGA and becoming a third party publisher then fine but didn't they once say they are already working on the next xbox?
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