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themcnoisy

I left my beloved 360 when Don Mattrick happened and headed to the wonderful world of PS4. Which I don't regret at all. Played a ton of amazing games, a handful still in my top 20 games of all time.

My wife (who's amazing) bought me a PS5 and it has been, underwhelming. Astrobot was great as a launch game and playing miles Morales and Ghost of Tsushima blew me away. But the envy I had browsing Gamepass articles kept growing.

Could Phil Spencer have really turned around the Don Mattrick disaster?

Yes he has. Gamepass and the Xbox series X are absolutely brilliant. Since January I have played over 50 games. There are so many games I want to play - like the show, China detective agency and tunic. But can't fit them in! It was a rough start to my new found Xbox console. The UI isn't as natural as the PS5 and starting up was a nightmare. Streaming on the box feels bad.

But once I bought an 8 bit do controller and learnt the UI's issues I am having the best time on a console, since I had the Amiga and Megadrive set up at me Ma's.

The most important part of a console is it's library. And as every single game Ive played is on sub - which I haven't even payed for due to ms rewards - it's amazing. Any playstation or switch owner, you need an Xbox.

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BAMozzy

@themcnoisy Welcome back to the 'green' side...

As I say, each to their own - but as someone who owns 'both' a Playstation 5 and Series X, just like I owned a Pro/X, PS4/XB1, PS3/360, PS2/Xbox, this has been the generation that has the 'biggest' split in my gaming time. Even when the XB1 was clearly 'behind' the PS4, it still got used more than my PS5 did over the same ownership period. Since owning 'both' current gen consoles, 90%+ of that time has been on Series X. A lot of that maybe down to financial decisions - I'm NOT paying £70 for a game, especially not when I have 100's of games I want to play in my backlog and in Game Pass that I can wait until the price is 'low' enough to make me want to spend money to play it over any of the other games I have. Its not worth spending £70 to fill my 'valuable' gaming time when its being filled by 100's of games with no upfront costs...

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Grumblevolcano

@themcnoisy I think Phil Spencer is pretty much doing what Don Mattrick wanted but in a more implicit way like for example Series X forces you to connect to the internet before you can play a game for the first time meanwhile the whole "power of the cloud" stuff lives on in the form of a part of Game Pass (xCloud) and a new cloud gaming organization.

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Lavalera

I'm basically new to console gaming this generation, always been more a mmorpg player on pc. Seeing what both Xbox and Playstation had to offer and really wanting to buy a console to play more single player games on the couch made look into both of them. I made a list of pros and cons which one to buy first (I own both now) after researching about what both machines could do, games that were on the horizon and that kind of stuff, the xbox for me was the clear winner to get first. Gamepass alone gives you access to such a huge catalog of games and when you're new to single player gaming its so hard to chose which games to play there.
Also the other features like smart delivery, quick resume and their backwards compatibility made it even easier.
I've seen and heard a lot of what happened during the previous generation and can understand the playstation 4 easily won that generation (playing through some of their exclusives now and loving those). But this generation Xbox seems to be back. When their games from the acquisitions start to roll out directly into gamepass and with the right type of marketing, they can get a lot of ground back which they lost. They are not there yet and still have a lot of ground to cover, but as far as i can see, the future looks bright for xbox

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themcnoisy

@BAMozzy with you man, Im spending literally all my time on the Xbox.

Ive got huge love for Sony. Especially 'Dreams' which doesn't have a comparable and experience on Xbox. So too PSVR which was amazing - everyone should have a go. But it's not suitable for chilling after a day at work or when you have kids.

Aside from those, Xbox has got me hook line and sinker from its own initiatives. MS Rewards are fantastic, Im actually using bing and edge regularly and prefer them. There are a plethora of genres on Gamepass, compared to psplus where it's all 3rd person action games mostly. Also the way you can abridge your favourite games (Tetris Effect) to the UI is boss. So as a now 41 year old, yup it's Xbox here on out. Im actually considering selling the PS5, buying a further 8 bit do and some furniture as I can't see myself playing it. Especially as GT7 is a 6/10 game and the focus on online.

@Grumblevolcano Thanks for replying but nah I completely disagree. Phil's clearly a gamer. Don Mattrick was a disaster. He took the Xbox at the centre of the home focus and concentrated on everything but games. TV, TV, TV. The weird DRM second hand sales garbage and the weak end games wise of the 360. Awful.

Phil has worked out that people like us, who frequent games sites, are the key. Suffice the big Indies coming over and better than past gen exclusives.

Sony have messed up. Browsing the store, other than the big hitters (Demon Souls, Astrobot, HZD) all the good games are available on GP.

@Lavalera With you on that. I love the PS5 UI and Astrobot was my favourite PSVR game. But it houses nothing special outside of its key franchises. Even then Im turned off slightly as 3rd person action adventures can really fatigue. The Xbox has all of the hidden gems and it's looking good for first party in the next few years.

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Tasuki

@themcnoisy I love Sony don't get me wrong and their games are great. Some of my favorite game series started out on Sony Tekken, Twisted Metal, Spyro, Tomb Raider, Crash etc. I have owned every PS consoles since the PS 1 (and I have yet to get a PS5) but ever since the PS3 days they have been slowing losing me.

Now, I don't know if it's my taste in games that changed or maybe cause I don't have as much time to put towards gaming like I did during the PS/PS2 Era but I just find most of Sony's first part games just seem closer to movies then video games. While I appreciate a good story and I love the cinematic approach Sony is taking, God knows some of my favorite games are SNES Era RPGs like Final Fantasy 3, Chrono Trigger that have a movie feel then there are games like Metal Gear Solid that just blew my mind when it first came out. I remember telling my friend OMG this feels.more like a movie then a game when I played it.

Now enter the PS3 Era with games like Uncharted and such while their stories I like, I don't walk away with thr same feeling as I do when I play something like Twisted Metal or Tekken or even something like Super Mario Bros U Deluxe. I walk away with the same feeling I do from seeing a major Blockbuster like I did with Jurassic Park or Dark Knight, Marvel Movies or even Titanic rather then a game. The same feeling I get after watching a 2 to 3 hour movie. Let that sink in 2 to 3 hours vs 15+ with some games.

I know what you are saying, but Tasuki, there's saves points, chapters, parts etc. you don't have to play them in one sitting but for me that like watching a movie for the first time and Midway leaving the theater and coming back to it later and for me that just kills the mood.

Now enter Xbox with games like Halo Infinite yes they have an epic cinematic feel to them but the Multiplayer mode is just as good as the single-player mode. I can sit down with some mates, for an hour or two after work with a couple of beers and blast the holy hell out of each other and feel satisfied, get that feeling of playing a game. With Forza Horizon I can pop in for an hour or so while the family does their thing run a few races and walk away from it feeling like I played a game even if it was months since I last played.

Like I said in the beginning, I don't know if my game tastes have changes, or the change of how much time I devote to games but that just how I feel it comes to Sony games, Xbox games and even Nintendo games. Apologies for the long rant didn't intend for it to be this long. To me Sony just feels like a cinematic experience where as Xbox feels more like a gaming thing.

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BAMozzy

@Tasuki I do agree - Sony's games tend to have a very defined lead character (Nate, Aloy, Kratos, Joel etc) all with their own strong personality and values. That makes all their games feel like you are playing through another persons story, playing 'their' adventure - like a movie. I watched 'Nate' triumph and get the treasure...

A lot of MS's games have a more 'vague' lead at best, otherwise you get to make your own character, but even Master Chief is quite devoid of Personality and with the first Person perspective, it allows you to inject some of yourself into it, you [can] 'become' Master Chief. I saved the world, I defeated the bosses because I became Master Chief.

Sony have that 'movie' experience, writing stories for Actors to portray on screen, given their characters some depth/personality to define them so you can just 'watch' and understand their behaviour and/or motivation. MS have more 'software' experience and putting the 'user' at the centre of that. Windows was a way to make a computer feel like your 'office' with a trash bin, desktop, filing cabinets etc so the 'user' is central in that 'office' and then let you 'free' to make it your 'own' office. They put you in the Mjolnir Armour and you are Spartan 117...

Of course MS have Gears of War which is a cinematic story but then you do have some 'generic' soldiers as the lead to inject some personality into - Cole has a lot of personality, as do some of the side characters but I think that's more evidence that they deliberately made the leads more 'flat' so that the player can inject something into it and I think they tend to give more 'freedom' to play how you want in general too.

Arguably its playing to the strengths of each company and what they 'do' best. Of course things are changing 'fast' with MS acquiring a number of new Studio's which may bring more cinematic games and we know Sony are looking at making more MP/Live Service games which will probably have more 'character' creation and player choice so they feel more 'in the game' than watching it play out on screen...

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Banjo-

@Tasuki What you explained is what happened to me, to the point that I don't think it's worth owning a PS4 or PS5 and buying the expensive games to get that kind of experience. The only thing I would add to what you wrote is that it's not just that the exclusive games feel like interactive films but also that the gameplay is not engaging enough because it's designed to merely wrap the cinematic experience.

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themcnoisy

@Tasuki @Banjo- kind of. You can say that for Uncharted and TLOU for sure. I think Spiderman is amazing (pardon the pun) and Dreams and some of Sony's VR stuff blew me away.

The issue I have right now is nothing seems on the horizon bar GoW, which albeit critically acclaimed, I didn't click with it. The same can be said of BoTW on switch. Uncharted remake - yawn - in fact uncharted is overrated. Playing the ND collection I couldn't wait to leave the franchise behind once I hit the 3rd game. Compared to the Master Chief Collection and I still want to go back after finishing all 6 games!!!

Sony are doing their own thing, fair play. But when the company line is '£70 games / games as a service / no communication with fans / terrible looking console / underpowered subscription service/ hardly any storage with the console' compare that to MS with 'cheaper games / ongoing fan communication / great looking console / best subscription service / decent storage'.

It's like a complete reversal than the start of X1 / PS4 generation.

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Tasuki

I will agree with the subscription service, but that's Xbox doing their own thing. Yes it's popular and a great deal if Sony and Nintendo don't think so that's their thing. I can agree with the lack of communication with fans it seems that once Jack Tretton left Sony lost that. As far as the console looks that doesn't matter to me it's the functionality of the device. The fact that Sony will not allow backwards compatibility with native discs is what kills it for me. I have quite a few PS, PS2 and PS3 games that I would like to play but sadly I don't have the consoles anymore.

Basically what it comes down to is that Xbox is more gaming in their ideas, and presentation, where as Sony it's just a device. Which makes sense as someone pointed out. Sony is an electronics companies, radios, tvs, PSVR etc and are more about the device while MS is more software driven because they are a Software company.

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Tasuki wrote:

Sony is an electronics companies, radios, tvs, PSVR etc and are more about the device while MS is more software driven because they are a Software company.

This - and MS has changed its business model. Sony are a 'sales' based company. They want you to buy their products so if you want to play a Sony 'exclusive', you have to buy Sony made hardware. There is a reason they are 'ONLY' on Playstation and its all to drive 'sales'.

MS make Hardware more for those that 'want' it. You don't 'need' to buy a Microsoft Surface to get Windows, Office etc just like you don't 'need' to buy an Xbox to play Microsofts games. They don't 'need' to sell software either. For MS, every piece of Software is a 'store' and selling you on an 'experience', a feature set, ease of use etc and if it appeals enough to 'interest' you, you can try it with no obligation to buy. Games too these days also want to sell you 'more' - DLC, MTX's, boosts etc so getting you in to the 'store' means more 'eyes' on the product and if the people are 'happy' in that store, they are more likely to spend more than just their valuable time in that store - either purchasing the game and/or purchasing 'extras' to enhance their 'enjoyment' in that store. Game Pass is like a Mall - all these 'stores' offering numerous different experiences for you to spend your 'valuable' time in and because you are 'happy' in that ecosystem, spending your time in that ecosystem, you are investing more 'money' in that ecosystem so doesn't matter if you access the Mall via a MS made device or not, doesn't matter if they are not 'best selling' software/hardware, it matters more that the 'ecosystem' is growing. MS would rather have 20m+ visit their 'store' and spend time in their 'ecosystem', than sell 4-5m copies and be the 'best selling' game of week/month.

Not saying either is necessarily 'better/worse' - just that their own business model does affect the services they offer. Sony with its 'sales' driven business model, a very traditional model, is not going to offer Day1 Games, especially not when they already have a 'premium' for Sony attached. Those games are 'not' coming to other platforms Day 1 so you 'have' to buy the Sony Hardware and if you do own a PC too, then you will also expect to have to buy the game again when it does release. Maybe they will give 'some' games day 1 (MP/Live Service based as these would benefit more by higher install base) but not Spider-Man 2, Wolverine, God of War, Horizon etc. If they offered a 'Game Pass Ultimate' type service, then you wouldn't need to buy anything (other than a 'cheap' subscription) to play any Sony game on any platform - you could stream to Mobile/PC if there isn't a 'native' version released so would be detrimental to their business model

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Balta666

It is kind of funny that until this gen I would never even think about buying an Xbox and now series X is where I play 90% of the time...

I have been a PC casual gamer for most of my life, altough I have a mega drive from my childhood and played my fair share of N64 at friends but after that my console gaming was just some ocasionaly PES/FIFA on PS2 and PS3 and a bit o Wii crazyness days.
Meanwhile it came Switch and I was sold on the day I saw its announcement... I bought it on day one and started playing much more, after a couple of years I ended buying a new PC gaming rig to play games not coming to switch, later I subscribed to gamepass and it came to a point where I was not feeling playing at the desk anymore but could not find a good way to have it work on the living room without moving the PC there so I said what the hell let's buy a series X instead and here we are. I did not play a single minute on PC since and even switch only when something like Metroid released. (It helps that when I bought switch I was comuting and travelling a lot and now it is pretty much the opposite).

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BAMozzy

@Balta666 And with Game Pass, you can still play your games on a 'mobile/tablet' as you 'commute' (if you find you are travelling more again) without needing to purchase new 'hardware' or that version of the game. If the TV is occupied by others, you can always switch to PC and carry on playing too because your progress is saved in the cloud.

I started gaming in the 70's with a 'console' - first Pong, then an Atari. But by the very early 80's, Home Computing was for 'older' kids/adults and the console was more a younger childs 'toy'. Therefore my gaming moved more to computers - BBC, Vic20, Amstrad CPC464, Amiga, PC. It was the N64/PS1 era that pulled me back to consoles as they had the 'better' games and were breaking down that perception that consoles were for 'kids'. PS1 was in nightclubs for example and most PC's of that era struggled with 3D unless you were buying 3D cards and hoped you picked the one that worked well.

When my £2500 PC couldn't play the games I wanted, (yes it could cope with Lemmings, Doom, Wolfenstein, Starcraft etc but not Tomb Raider), I moved back to console. Even when the 360 launched, it was running games 'better' than current PC's but of course that gen was a LONG one so PC's caught up and overtook relatively quickly. Then the 'financial' crisis as the 360 era ended and the analysts predicting the death of console, I'm sure that forced MS/Sony to focus on GPU to make games 'look' generationally superior, but extremely limited on CPU so couldn't 'really' push beyond the previous generations physics/AI - which is why destruction or more complex AI/Crowds crippled performance and if anything, actually saw a reduction. Battlefield has very little destruction today, compared to 360 era with literally total destruction.

I am looking at picking up a decent gaming Laptop - yes I know its not the most cost effective and you lose the 'performance' of the desktop equivalent due to lower power consumption, but having the 'option' to play any Game - with DLSS & RT anywhere and anytime does appeal. Not only that, I can play when the TV is occupied and on the Sofa, I can play PC Game Pass games not on Console etc so a Laptop would be a great option - also my Son has moved to PC gaming so easier to find 'common' games to play - not having to rely on only those that support cross-play.

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themcnoisy

@Balta666 I gave up PCs a long time ago, I have one of course for work but keeping up with the required tech is a minefield. My last proper gaming PC was bought around 2001 and I kept that bad boy running for maybe 11 years (it was literally running 17 processes after start up, nowadays it's not uncommon to have 150+ in the task manager). I bought better components yearly but around 2008 I realised it couldn't run the better new games well unless I bought a new setup and for the cost I bought a 360 and a ton of games, a couple of controllers and Xbox live. It was a good choice.

I was considering jumping back in (we always do don't we?) But the memories of toggling settings and drivers, downloading stuff on modem etc. Then it not working! Nah, Im happy with a console ROFL 😂

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BAMozzy

@Balta666 I've not played Cloud games on a mobile - but I have streamed games to my Laptop over wifi as well as via my Xbox Series X and in both instances, lag really wasn't the issue. Within seconds of playing, I forgot it was 'streaming' rather than local. I'm not saying there is NO additional Lag, but its so miniscule as to be negligible if at all noticeable. Of course, that's a different proposition to streaming over a 'mobile' network.

I don't know how well it works on mobile, especially on 4G networks, but over wifi to a laptop felt as similar as playing natively on my console - which also wasn't as impacted by the lower resolution of streaming on the lower resolution and much smaller Laptop screen. That should give people hope that the Mobile networks will deliver the same experience as 'wifi' and be indistinguishable from Local play. yes it may add a couple of thousandths of a second to the input lag, but the lag on some TV's could have a much bigger impact - especially if you are not using Game Modes. An extra 2-3ms of input delay isn't as bad as 30ms difference Screen delay. At 60fps, with 33.3ms TV processing lag, you are already 2 frames behind where the 'game' state is to 'react' to what you are seeing so having better input lag isn't going to help when you are only able to 'react' to what you see which is 'delayed' because of the TV's processing Lag. Game Modes reduce that by removing most of the TV's own processing of the image given you the 'Raw' game image that was 'processed' in-engine as designed and sent to the TV. By cutting out the 'TV's' extra processing steps, you reduce the 'delay' in receiving the image and displaying it to 'react' to.

All I can say is that in my own personal experience, over my own 'wifi' network, that cloud gaming is a 'viable' option. On my Series X, the 'only' real compromise is 'image quality' - a compressed 1080p with compression artefacts (shadow details, gradients suffering a bit from the compression) but still very 'playable' - perhaps better on 1080p screens, but on a large 4k HDR TV, its definitely noticeably worse than local. On my Laptop, which has an 11" QHD screen (thin line tablet with SSD but no separate GPU), the visual compromise is reduced due to lower resolution and much smaller screen size and allowed me to play games when my TV was occupied so the benefits outweighed the visual drawbacks.

On my Series X, I would download any game where the 'visual' style is going to benefit the most from Local play. Games with a 'bright' and/or more 'simplistic' artstyle, especially 'short' games are quicker and easier to play via Streaming - no need to wait for them to download and install, no need to juggle your games around to create space on the limited SSD storage to make room to install (which often meant that I didn't 'bother' with trying those games) just 'stream' it. I played 'Marvels Avengers' via streaming to Series X and felt 'normal' to play - even if it looked 'soft'...

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KilloWertz

@BAMozzy It's going to be a long time before Cloud gaming can be a true alternative to the point where it could even potentially take over. Too many people still don't have good enough internet for it to be viable, which is a big reason why I never subscribed to PS Now let alone try xCloud. If I had the option to have good internet, I would have already taken advantage of being able to stream PS3 games (I stupidly got rid of my PS3 long ago) and at least tested xCloud. Even so, since I already have a Series X, I wouldn't have used it much unless I just wanted to try a game out and save hard drive space.

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BAMozzy

@KilloWertz Considering you only need 18Gbps to offer1080/120fps or 40Gbps, its not exactly 'very demanding'. The UK is supposed to be committed to delivering lightning fast Broadband to the whole country (at least available even if you don't have the finances to sign-up) and with 5G becoming more established, the 'majority' of Adults in the UK at least should have sufficient bandwidth for streaming. Most are streaming 'digital' content all the time.

The only thing that a 'reduced' bandwidth would affect is the size of the image. If they stick with 1080p with compression, then you don't need more than 18Gbps download speeds - the game is 'running' on hardware in the cloud 'locally' so its only sending the 'image' (much like your console sends an image via HDMI to your display) and uploading your 'inputs' to process. Of course there is a 'slight' delay because the distances are much increased, but an extra 3-5ms is not a 'game breaker'.

I do think streaming will become the main way gamers play games - just the Majority stream TV/Movies/Music to whatever devices they have - and I'm sure that some gamers, like Audiophiles and Movie Buffs, will want 'physical' for 'reasons' of which the quality is a big one due to streaming 'compression', but for the 'vast' majority, the convenience, the ease, the cost and the fact they can take their entire collection wherever they go. I'm not talking about the 'enthusiastic game collector' or 'professional' gamer, I'm talking about the estimated 3.24bn gamers worldwide who wouldn't need to buy any hardware to play the 'same' games, maybe even games your hardware can't run without upgrading, at 'no' extra cost. When people are 'happy' to play XB1S/PS4 versions of games, despite the Series X/PS5 running them at 2x the frame rate with much lower input lag, the most common PC GPU using steam is a GTX1060, then it seems the majority aren't too concerned about 'input' lag or performance. 30fps has a lot worse input lag than 60fps and how many actually set their TV up for 'game' mode or use a 'movie' mode, maybe BFI etc so have even more Lag...

Each to their own, but I can see games in the next 5yrs requiring streaming to overcome the limitations of the 'Local' hardware - like Storage capacity (streaming in environmental data because the game size is too big for SSD's), Handling complex Physics or AI calculations because the local hardware is too slow to cope with that and everything else required. MS themselves are also looking for developers whose projects are too 'ambitious' for Local hardware specifically for the cloud. If Kojima's next (rumoured) project is 'cloud' based too, that is a 'big' name that may only be playable via streaming and accelerate the uptake of cloud gaming...

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Banjo-

@themcnoisy Yep, I'm not feeling like replaying the Uncharted games nor Breath of the Wild either, for different reasons. In regard to hardware and policies, Sony and Nintendo are further from fans now than I can remember, the opposite of Xbox.

@Tasuki And that is funny because Microsoft makes better hardware than Sony since Xbox One. Yes, the Xbox One is less powerful but much more reliable than PS4 which is hot, noisy, and tends to eject discs randomly. Xbox One X is an engineering marvel as opposed to PS4 Pro that is the same noisy hot rubbish as PS4. Series X is more compact, quieter and more powerful than the humongous PS5.

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Tasuki

@themcnoisy That's what got me back to console gaming too having to upgrade parts all the time to play the latest games.

I grew up with Nintendo as a kid my father was able to get my brother and I an NES on the NA launch day, not sure how he pulled it off. But that was when I got into gaming with games like SMB, Zelda, Mega Man etc. Then came the 16 bit era and I had both SNES and Genesis as well as my trusty NES. Stayed up with consoles through the N64/PSone Era as well. Then at the beginning of the PS2/ GameCube era I had my son, so it was time for me to grow up, and grow up I mean no longer staying up all night with the boys playing Mario Kart or Goldeneye I had to get a real job lol. So with me working long hours and my job requiring me to travel I drifted away from console gaming. A few years later mind 2005 I want to say my job no longer required traveling but still working long hours and then coming home the TV was always in use by someone either my son watching a movie before bed or my wife at the time watching one of her shows. By this time I was out of touch with console gaming for the most part, I had a PS2 and GameCube but barely played them. I occasionally would go over to a friend's house play some Halo and KotOR as well but for the most part I was out of touch.

One day I was talking to an old friend of mine and he told me about Dungeon and Dragons Online an MMORPG that was on PC. Being an old D&D player it intrigued me. Then it got me thinking, if I had a computer I could play DDO for a bit after work to relax even when the TV was in use. So I went out and got me a gaming PC. After playing DDO for a few years my friends and I decided to give World of Warcraft a shot and were instantly hooked. From that point on I gamed on the PC mainly WoW and simulation games like The Sims, and the City Builder Series by Sierra. This is also when I started experimenting with emulators mainly for retro gaming since my TV was always in use. During this time the Xbox 360 and PS3 came out, and I really didn't have interest in either of them, my son however growing up on the PS2 and talking with friends at school wanted to play the big upcoming games (Assassins Creed, GTA etc) so for Christmas I him a Xbox 360 since it was the cheaper of the two. I also picked up a Wii because of the Virtual Console figuring hey I can play older games and not have to mess around with ROMs and emulators and all that crap. However during this time I still stuck with WoW and really only played the Wii and Xbox 360 with my son stuff like Mario Kart Wii the Smackdown VS Raw games and Lego games.

Shortly before the PS4/Xbox One reveals my old PC finally died not only that but around the time WoW started to get stale and the guild that I played with regularly was starting to come apart. I was also getting to the point where I was getting tired of having to upgrade my PC every couple of years and messing with stuff to optimize my gaming experience. In the end I just wanted to pop a game in and play so that was when the first time I considered getting a console again. Also by this time I was divorced, my son was into other things, and had his own TV as well so the TV was open more freely. I watched the E3 announcent for MS and Sony and after it was said and done I pre-ordered a PS4. The price alone was less then a gaming PC at the time too so that was a huge bonus too. After that I made my return to console gaming and it felt good.

Now I own a Xbox Series X and S as well as a Switch and PS4. Sure I get the urge to go back to PC but mainly I played MMOs and Simulation games with console gaming I have such a huge variety and I don't have to worry if this game will work on my system or not. Console gaming is just way more convenient for me now.

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